prophet makes very good points.
That is biggest purveyors Death & Destruction have been Christian Nations of Europe and US, and of course US above all. So all this Hate Mongering and fear Mongering of course has poisoned the Minds of many in USA resulting in riots after riots in US cities and US having much worse Crime and Welfare stats compared to European nations. So real change must to US not the Wall Street Military Industrial (fake) Change that was Obama. And Republicans in US are such lunatics to criticize Obama for not having waged even more Wars! Hum.
So, the US defeating Japan and helping to defeat Hitler, let's not forget Hussein and Laden, is poisoning the minds of our youth? Ha. Are you saying Americans have more welfare than other countries? That's because many are poor and oppressed.Thank God we are able to help our own! Than God WE are not a starving and oppressed nation! This is America everybody! The problem with American youth of any color who feel they have to burn down buildings and STEAL, is arrogance and lack of self-pride.
1st, lets not forget that it was the Communist Soviet Union that "helped to defeat Hitler.." and in fact it was the Communist Soviet Union, the member of the ALLIEDs that did 90% of the fighting in defeating Hitler and gave 99% of the Death compared to US.
2nd, what does WWII have to do with today? Today Europe is in a Union where Germans and French, etc. can FREELY live and work in each others Country.
3rd, problem with US is lack of Welfare that we have in European countries.
I did say "helping to defeat Hitler." The WWII comments were related to other comments made on this subject.
Why does it always come down to one's state of existence as reason for rioting in the US? Why burn down your neighbor's business, who had nothing to do with police actions? If you are mad at your dog, don't take it out on the cat! What if someone came and bulldozed your house because their neighbor got shot? Sorry, I do not understand the illogical reaction people have. So you think our
country riots because we don't have the same Welfare as Europeans? What about riots in Europe?! Americans see political riots in Europe and Europeans see Americans rioting because our welfare isn't the same? Well, doesn't that just solve the whole problem. That's not quite the answer I was looking for. You don't think a punk attitude has anything to do with burning businesses? Is burning businesses going to change any thing that caused the riot? How can looting businesses change things?
Change our Welfare programs? Change people's minds over oppression and civil rights by what? More food stamps or better housing? Is that Really where the problem is? Do not values or morals count anymore? Respect of innocent? Punish the guilty, not some poor person trying to make a living for family. It takes a change of heart, not residence or better material things, or burning someone's business to the ground.
US lacks the most basic of Social services, that is:
Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS)
"Something so necessary that not 70%, not 80%, not 90%, but 100% of all developed Nations, that is all European Nations, Canada, Australia, Japan including Israel the beloved Nation of Republican lunatics & fraud Obama Democrats have had Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS) for many Decades"
Nah. You are totally not, which is due to the fact that you have been brain washed by the right-wing lying Media in USA, which is the entire US Media (aka Wall Street media). To not face the fact that USA has structural problems, due to the lies of this right-wing lying Media and Republicans and Democrats that they control, as a result of which US lacks the most basic of Social services and instead wages War after War, result of which is too much Misery in Baltimore and other US cities.
What about what's in people's hearts? I'm not talking gov't, or any other political body or entity. When people act human, that includes basic respect for each other. Yes, mourn your loses, protest your objections, that's our right and freedom. However, this is America and we should act like Americans. Grieve with your brothers and sisters, but don't go burn down a business that YOUR NEIGHBOR built to take car of family or self. They don't deserve to be victims of anger and frustration.
Even you, whatever country you are from/in, must object also to taking anger and frustration out on those who have nothing to do with the political realm. How would you feel if your neighbor burned down your business because his neighbor was killed indiscriminately? Would you feel responsible? Why YOUR business. I try to look at all victims' point-of-view. I know how I would feel. Innocent of someone's judgment of me as being part of the problem. Fix the gov't, don't burn down other's lives.
Well there is great truth to what you have said here:
"How would you feel if your neighbor burned down your business because his neighbor was killed indiscriminately?"
But with that said, USA has structural problems, which structural problems a Billionaire gang on Wall Street armed with 100s of Billions of Dollars is fanning and supporting, as a result of which average People are left with no choice but to demonstrate violently since their elected officials are owned by this Enemy within.
Then demonstrate against the gov't, or whoever is causing the problem, not Mr. Jones who has the bakery down the street. Besides, WHO elected them? Do you really think Wall St. runs our country? Black ops, secret societies, of which many politicians attend, including big businesses. Those who are BEHIND what the public sees [like Wall St.]. Cover-ups, foreign manipulation, etc. still has little to do with what people choose to do.
So, because of Wall St., etc., violence is justified? We have welfare programs for those who need help. We have grants for school. So how do our structural problems justify becoming violent? Violence stems from anger, hate, frustration, it's a reaction. Our actions are the result of what we think and feel. Just because gov'ts and other entities want to struggle over who's going to rule the world, how about ruling our own lives? Treat each other humanely. We live in our own little reality
cubicles. What's going on in Russia, China, Middle East, anywhere really, and what's going on politically everywhere, and what's happening with everyone's economies, are not subject to why a person is going to bring harm and destruction to another. I pay too much in taxes, let me shoot someone. I can't get a job because I lack skills or education, so I think I'll go set fire to the nearest 7-11. Let's see, I can blame it all on govt, or the economy, prejudice, racial discrimination, my dog, blah
Race should make no more difference in the way we treat each other than religion, or nationality, but they seem to be part of the root of of negative feelings, which result in negative actions. When we can heal ourselves of destructive thoughts and feelings, destructive actions against our own communities and neighbors will decrease. Maybe THEN we can work on the rest of the world.
Two thousand years ago, God sent us a PERFECT MAN with a PERFECT PHILOSOPHY.
His name was Jesus Christ, and his revolutionary philosophy was UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Unfortunately, his wonderful philosophy was rejected by the overwhelming majority of people, including his disciples. Today it is still rejected by the overwhelming majority of the so-called Christians on our planet. That is the reason for the racism, cruelty, apathy, and injustice in all the Christian nations of our world.
Colonialism, a euphemism for land stealing, has been practiced by many Christian nations around the world, for centuries. For the many millions of indigenous people who lost their land, and their life, Christianity was not a religion it was a global curse.
We must not forget that the two ATOM BOMBS that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, were invented, developed, and used by CHRISTIANS.
The major Christian nations of the world hold the biggest stockpiles of WMDs.
Correct, to a point. The first horseman is white, and goes forth conquering and to conquer. Next, To say racism, apathy, cruelty, etc. is the result of Colonialism is nonsense. All those negative reactions are but what comes from the heart and mind. It has nothing to do with politics or any other excuse. The kind of person you are, the kind of people we strive to become, reflects what we believe. Jesus did not have a "philosophy" to preach, but a gospel. He did not preach unconditional love,
but preached the coming kingdom of God. To judge the teachings of Jesus by the actions of those who claim to be Christians is a mistake most people make. Everyone expects Christians to be these perfect people, but that's the beauty of it, Jesus knows we're prone to sin and failure, which is where His gracious mercy prevails. Brotherly love, unconditional love, comes when we learn to love God. We love our families, but God is hardly ever first.
I also think you are mistaken by believing the majority of Christians reject Christ's "philosophy" of unconditional love. And blaming Hiroshima, etc. on Christians is silly. It was not a religious war, for one, and did you forget the cruelty the Japanese inflicted on many POW's? No shame on that? Our bomb was bigger. Thank goodness it was our bomb and not theirs.
"when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
And unfortunately the above describes what we have with TEAPublicans and Obama Democrats, that is 2 Wall Street owned Parties who care little for Social Welfare of American People & Cities, and they have gotten away with this SCAM on US due to same Wall Street Billionaire gang controlling entire US Media, from right-wing CBS ABC CNN MSNBC to ultra right-wing Fox and psychos on Talkradio.
There's a difference between protesting tragedy and rioting and using that tragedy as an excuse to vent whatever your own personal issue is that you can't vent otherwise. No matter what a person is dealing with, going out and just destroying what other people do work for is adding tragedy to tragedy. "Someone gets killed recklessly, so I think I'll go burn my neighbor's store down, or go steal whatever I can get my hands on." Poverty is no excuse, lack of parental guidance is no excuse. The death of an innocent is no excuse. To victimize other innocent people is not going to make people listen to what you are supposed to be protesting against or for. Change comes from the inside, including how you view the outside. Ask any hippie. Brotherly love is free.
But when People have NO Hope that any real change will come by peaceful Means, because both Democrats and Republicans are controlled by the same Wall Street Military Industrial Complex & Israel lobby, then People have No choice but to demonstrate in non peaceful means. Dont you think? The best example of which is the State of Healthcare in USA.
No hope of what? That the system will change itself? What does the MIC and Israel lobby, etc. have to do with having morals? Not to take what belongs to your neighbor? Golden rule? Ten commandments? Living the way we want people to treat us? My neighbor died needlessly, that does NOT give me the liberty or right to loot or burn down businesses that had NOTHING to do with the death of anyone! Splain that, Lucy.
As I have been writing for some time, you can expect more & more riots in USA due to the fact that US has Structural problems, which Structural problems TEAPublican lunatics & right-wing lying Media such as Fox, pyschos on Talk-radio etc. Champion, again TEAPublicans Champion these problems, and which Structural problems Obama Democrats talked about but did NOTHING at all to address, and in fact they passed ideas proposed by Ultra Right-wing of the Republican part.
For more chck out this excellent article:
It is rarely that I agree with the president, but on this topic I do. He appeared on TV renouncing the rioters, proclaiming them opportunists and outright criminals. Looting and rioting have nothing to do with effective civil protest. Riots only create more problems, they never resolve anything.
I've known a lot of ghetto black people in different large cities. This is NOT the way they "react to all situations" (whatever that means). It's shameful how SOME react. True. But not all react that way, including the mother who chased down her teenage son. There are a LOT like her. There are also a LOT of decent young people who would never shame themselves or commit such wanton violence. But they don't give the air time. And some, though not all, have in fact been known to change.
The New World Order is destroying the nation from the inside out. The plan was to demoralize the nation. Then they divide and conquer. Plato's philosophy of government was to have a handful of elite philosophers rule the masses through a subjugated police force. The family unit had to be destroyed. The state had to program children through state run education and keeping the children from knowing their fathers. Fathers were not allowed to live at home and women were to be community property. People were to be told what jobs to have and only given what is necessary to survive. This is the philosophy of the New World Order with the idea of depopulation and total mind control as top priorities. The world leaders sit back and laugh at chaos and people turning on each other. It is an excuse to pay the police to become even more brutal.
glorybound - So are you advocating we throw out all televisions, not pay police, quit our jobs, release all the women who are community property, make all fathers stay at home, take our children out of public education, and assassinate all philosophers? If not, what's your solution, and if you have no solution, what's your point?
Some of what you suggested is right. First, throw out the televisions and put the bible back in schools. Then work on restoring families. Get rid of the federal reserve bankers that run everything out if control and are unconstitutional. I know you probably dont think its a good idea. At this point the toilet has been flushed and the nwo is getting ready to present the antichrist as the answer to the worlds problems. The only hope anyone has at this point is to turn to jesus christ in prayer.
There is a separation between church and state for a reason "glorybound9876" and what you are suggesting if forcing the USA and the world to accept a cult religion that is not what I signed up for. I am pagan. I don't believe in your god and I sure as hell won't allow anyone to force a religion upon me whether it be CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM. Ur ideas are retarded.
Actually people sre kept ignorant that the bible was the goundation of the public schools long before this was a nation. It was in 1963 that the nwo succeeded in getting the bible removed from schools. Now you can teach aatanism but not the bible . Mass shootings and teen pregnancies are now common.
Their takeover over the past century. The creation of the unconstitutional federal reserve bank, and their takeover of the mass media through the council on foreign relations before 1920 played a keyrole in the overthrow of the nation. Demoralizing the nation was a key part of taking control to overthrow the nation.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a compilation of all the factors you listed. Yet all these factors, and other common ones, are problems in every major city in America. What sparked the riots in Baltimore? I wouldn't dismiss the notion that it was outside forces, aimed purposely to create national attention and government intervention, which always means more government control.
Endemic Poverty that is typical in US cities
Lack of Hope in typical US city while Wall Street Rich are getting Richer
Keeping in mind that as bad as these Baltimore Riots are they pale in comparison to what is happening in typical US city such as for example Chicago having had a Murder rate that is larger than number of People killed by Taliban in Afghanistan, here:
BonjuPatten, absolutely true. I did not say that "It is only Black People".
I said the reasons for these Baltimore riots or riots after riots across US cities, and to be more exact US having a Murder rate that is 40 times of developed World or incarceration rates that are much higher than all developed Nations is
"the Wall Street MOFO behind right-wing Media in US getting Richer & Richer."
the result of which are no real Change in Washington, and War after War after War for Israel.
Something else. These ghetto blacks are used to generational poverty and they cannot seem to get out of their ruts. It is because they are looking for a handout as well as claim Racism any time something happens to them. It is their "get out of trouble"card but it's not working anymore. White people are fed up too with their crap. If they want to join society - let them clean up and fly right.
BonjuPatten - I agree with you. I worked for several years in a downtown mission serving the homeless. Drugs and gang participation provides better subsistence for them than the minimum wage jobs they're qualified for. We had a saying that proved true time and again: "You can take a person out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of a person". There is an attitude peculiar to poor areas that defies conventional decency and respect. PEACE!
MJ I am sorry that we agree on this issue for the only reason that I wish it were different. I used to have faith in people that they would rise to the opportunities offered. Sadly, that is not the case in all people. Everyone is looking for a way out.