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GoldCoast

Joined: 2013-11-22
Location: UNITED STATES
Points: 254 | DemiGOD

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Posted On: 2015-04-29 12:19:04
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What do you think about Baltimore Riots?

From Ferguson to Baltimore, City after City in USA is having major Riots.
What do you think is the cause of the Baltimore Riots?

1- Police brutality

2- Endemic Poverty that is typical in US cities

3- Black People just want a Hand out

4- Lack of Hope in typical US city while Wall Street Rich are getting Richer

5- Lack of Religious values such as the born again Christian's say

Or something else?

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WirSind


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prophet makes very good points.
That is biggest purveyors Death & Destruction have been Christian Nations of Europe and US, and of course US above all. So all this Hate Mongering and fear Mongering of course has poisoned the Minds of many in USA resulting in riots after riots in US cities and US having much worse Crime and Welfare stats compared to European nations. So real change must to US not the Wall Street Military Industrial (fake) Change that was Obama. And Republicans in US are such lunatics to criticize Obama for not having waged even more Wars! Hum.
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raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

So, the US defeating Japan and helping to defeat Hitler, let's not forget Hussein and
Laden, is poisoning the minds of our youth? Ha. Are you saying Americans have more welfare
than other countries? That's because many are poor and oppressed.Thank God we are able to
help our own! Than God WE are not a starving and oppressed nation! This is America
everybody! The problem with American youth of any color who feel they have to burn down
buildings and STEAL, is arrogance and lack of self-pride.

WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

1st, lets not forget that it was the Communist Soviet Union that "helped to defeat
Hitler.." and in fact it was the Communist Soviet Union, the member of the ALLIEDs that
did 90% of the fighting in defeating Hitler and gave 99% of the Death compared to US.

2nd, what does WWII have to do with today? Today Europe is in a Union where Germans and
French, etc. can FREELY live and work in each others Country.

3rd, problem with US is lack of Welfare that we have in European countries.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

I did say "helping to defeat Hitler." The WWII comments were related to other comments
made on this subject.
Why does it always come down to one's state of existence as reason for rioting in the
US? Why burn down your neighbor's business, who had nothing to do with police actions? If
you are mad at your dog, don't take it out on the cat! What if someone came and bulldozed
your house because their neighbor got shot? Sorry, I do not understand the illogical
reaction people have. So you think our

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country riots because we don't have the same Welfare as Europeans? What about riots in
Europe?! Americans see political riots in Europe and Europeans see Americans rioting
because our welfare isn't the same? Well, doesn't that just solve the whole problem.
That's not quite the answer I was looking for. You don't think a punk attitude has
anything to do with burning businesses? Is burning businesses going to change any thing
that caused the riot? How can looting businesses change things?

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

Change our Welfare programs? Change people's minds over oppression and civil rights by
what? More food stamps or better housing? Is that Really where the problem is? Do not
values or morals count anymore? Respect of innocent? Punish the guilty, not some poor
person trying to make a living for family. It takes a change of heart, not residence or
better material things, or burning someone's business to the ground.

WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

US lacks the most basic of Social services, that is:
Government run Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS)
"Something so necessary that not 70%, not 80%, not 90%, but 100% of all developed
Nations, that is all European Nations, Canada, Australia, Japan including Israel the
beloved Nation of Republican lunatics & fraud Obama Democrats have had Government run
Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS) for many Decades"

Read: http://www.realnewspost.org/sa.php?a=64892

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

You totally missed it. Good luck.

WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

Nah. You are totally not, which is due to the fact that you have been brain washed by the
right-wing lying Media in USA, which is the entire US Media (aka Wall Street media). To
not face the fact that USA has structural problems, due to the lies of this right-wing
lying Media and Republicans and Democrats that they control, as a result of which US lacks
the most basic of Social services and instead wages War after War, result of which is too
much Misery in Baltimore and other US cities.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

What about what's in people's hearts? I'm not talking gov't, or any other political body
or entity. When people act human, that includes basic respect for each other. Yes, mourn
your loses, protest your objections, that's our right and freedom. However, this is
America and we should act like Americans. Grieve with your brothers and sisters, but don't
go burn down a business that YOUR NEIGHBOR built to take car of family or self. They don't
deserve to be victims of anger and frustration.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

Even you, whatever country you are from/in, must object also to taking anger and
frustration out on those who have nothing to do with the political realm. How would you
feel if your neighbor burned down your business because his neighbor was killed
indiscriminately? Would you feel responsible? Why YOUR business. I try to look at all
victims' point-of-view. I know how I would feel. Innocent of someone's judgment of me as
being part of the problem. Fix the gov't, don't burn down other's lives.

WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

Well there is great truth to what you have said here:
"How would you feel if your neighbor burned down your business because his neighbor was
killed indiscriminately?"

But with that said, USA has structural problems, which structural problems a Billionaire
gang on Wall Street armed with 100s of Billions of Dollars is fanning and supporting, as a
result of which average People are left with no choice but to demonstrate violently since
their elected officials are owned by this Enemy within.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

Then demonstrate against the gov't, or whoever is causing the problem, not Mr. Jones who
has the bakery down the street. Besides, WHO elected them? Do you really think Wall St.
runs our country? Black ops, secret societies, of which many politicians attend, including
big businesses. Those who are BEHIND what the public sees [like Wall St.]. Cover-ups,
foreign manipulation, etc. still has little to do with what people choose to do.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

So, because of Wall St., etc., violence is justified? We have welfare programs for those
who need help. We have grants for school. So how do our structural problems justify
becoming violent? Violence stems from anger, hate, frustration, it's a reaction. Our
actions are the result of what we think and feel. Just because gov'ts and other entities
want to struggle over who's going to rule the world, how about ruling our own lives? Treat
each other humanely. We live in our own little reality

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cubicles. What's going on in Russia, China, Middle East, anywhere really, and what's going
on politically everywhere, and what's happening with everyone's economies, are not subject
to why a person is going to bring harm and destruction to another. I pay too much in
taxes, let me shoot someone. I can't get a job because I lack skills or education, so I
think I'll go set fire to the nearest 7-11. Let's see, I can blame it all on govt, or the
economy, prejudice, racial discrimination, my dog, blah

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

Race should make no more difference in the way we treat each other than religion, or
nationality, but they seem to be part of the root of of negative feelings, which result in
negative actions. When we can heal ourselves of destructive thoughts and feelings,
destructive actions against our own communities and neighbors will decrease. Maybe THEN we
can work on the rest of the world.


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prophet


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Two thousand years ago, God sent us a PERFECT MAN with a PERFECT PHILOSOPHY.
His name was Jesus Christ, and his revolutionary philosophy was UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Unfortunately, his wonderful philosophy was rejected by the overwhelming majority of people, including his disciples. Today it is still rejected by the overwhelming majority of the so-called Christians on our planet. That is the reason for the racism, cruelty, apathy, and injustice in all the Christian nations of our world.
Colonialism, a euphemism for land stealing, has been practiced by many Christian nations around the world, for centuries. For the many millions of indigenous people who lost their land, and their life, Christianity was not a religion it was a global curse.
We must not forget that the two ATOM BOMBS that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, were invented, developed, and used by CHRISTIANS.
The major Christian nations of the world hold the biggest stockpiles of WMDs.
Kind regards,
John Romer
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raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

Correct, to a point. The first horseman is white, and goes forth conquering and to
conquer. Next, To say racism, apathy, cruelty, etc. is the result of Colonialism is
nonsense. All those negative reactions are but what comes from the heart and mind. It has
nothing to do with politics or any other excuse. The kind of person you are, the kind of
people we strive to become, reflects what we believe. Jesus did not have a "philosophy"
to preach, but a gospel. He did not preach unconditional love,

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but preached the coming kingdom of God. To judge the teachings of Jesus by the actions of
those who claim to be Christians is a mistake most people make. Everyone expects
Christians to be these perfect people, but that's the beauty of it, Jesus knows we're
prone to sin and failure, which is where His gracious mercy prevails. Brotherly love,
unconditional love, comes when we learn to love God. We love our families, but God is
hardly ever first.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

I also think you are mistaken by believing the majority of Christians reject Christ's
"philosophy" of unconditional love. And blaming Hiroshima, etc. on Christians is silly. It
was not a religious war, for one, and did you forget the cruelty the Japanese inflicted on
many POW's? No shame on that? Our bomb was bigger. Thank goodness it was our bomb and not
theirs.


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founding_fathers


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"when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

Thomas Jefferson

And unfortunately the above describes what we have with TEAPublicans and Obama Democrats, that is 2 Wall Street owned Parties who care little for Social Welfare of American People & Cities, and they have gotten away with this SCAM on US due to same Wall Street Billionaire gang controlling entire US Media, from right-wing CBS ABC CNN MSNBC to ultra right-wing Fox and psychos on Talkradio.
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WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

Very very interesting and Eye opening.


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raybanned


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There's a difference between protesting tragedy and rioting and using that tragedy as an excuse to vent whatever your own personal issue is that you can't vent otherwise. No matter what a person is dealing with, going out and just destroying what other people do work for is adding tragedy to tragedy. "Someone gets killed recklessly, so I think I'll go burn my neighbor's store down, or go steal whatever I can get my hands on." Poverty is no excuse, lack of parental guidance is no excuse. The death of an innocent is no excuse. To victimize other innocent people is not going to make people listen to what you are supposed to be protesting against or for. Change comes from the inside, including how you view the outside. Ask any hippie. Brotherly love is free.
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MJThompson 4 years 4 months ago

That's right, and protesting an unpopular war and civil rights never involved looting and
anarchy resulting in violence.

williamsdwight3 4 years 4 months ago

Where there is no vision, the people cast off all restraint. -Proverbs 29:18
#LightTheTriad

Faxonly 4 years 4 months ago

But when People have NO Hope that any real change will come by peaceful Means, because
both Democrats and Republicans are controlled by the same Wall Street Military Industrial
Complex & Israel lobby, then People have No choice but to demonstrate in non peaceful
means. Dont you think? The best example of which is the State of Healthcare in USA.

raybanned 4 years 4 months ago

No hope of what? That the system will change itself? What does the MIC and Israel lobby,
etc. have to do with having morals? Not to take what belongs to your neighbor? Golden
rule? Ten commandments? Living the way we want people to treat us? My neighbor died
needlessly, that does NOT give me the liberty or right to loot or burn down businesses
that had NOTHING to do with the death of anyone! Splain that, Lucy.

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Unjustified revenge.


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WirSind


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4 years 4 months ago

Erste Grüße zu alle.
Zweitens, ich glaube, die Antwort ist genau das, was WeThePeople geschrieben hat, das ist Antwort # 4,
das heißt:

Wenig Hoffnung in typisch amerikanischen Stadt, während Wall Street Reichen immer reicher

And in English:
First Greetings to all.
Second, I think the answer is exactly what WeThePeople has written, which basically is answer # 4, that is:

Lack of Hope in typical US city while Wall Street Rich are getting Richer
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We_the_People


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As I have been writing for some time, you can expect more & more riots in USA due to the fact that US has Structural problems, which Structural problems TEAPublican lunatics & right-wing lying Media such as Fox, pyschos on Talk-radio etc. Champion, again TEAPublicans Champion these problems, and which Structural problems Obama Democrats talked about but did NOTHING at all to address, and in fact they passed ideas proposed by Ultra Right-wing of the Republican part.

For more chck out this excellent article:
http://www.realnewspost.org/sa.php?a=67533
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WirSind 4 years 4 months ago

Sehr Gut und Sehr recht.


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garkadiy


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В основе этих беспорядков лежат различные образно-волновые (генетические) коды цветного и белого населения и недостаточная духовность населения.

Аркадий Герасимов
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We_the_People 4 years 4 months ago

I wish I could read Russian.
OTN, where is Санкт-Петербург?


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MJThompson


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It is rarely that I agree with the president, but on this topic I do. He appeared on TV renouncing the rioters, proclaiming them opportunists and outright criminals. Looting and rioting have nothing to do with effective civil protest. Riots only create more problems, they never resolve anything.
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BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

and this is the way ghetto black people react to all situations because they are
generational dependents on the Federal Government and will never change.

DPorter 4 years 4 months ago

I've known a lot of ghetto black people in different large cities. This is NOT the way
they "react to all situations" (whatever that means). It's shameful how SOME react. True.
But not all react that way, including the mother who chased down her teenage son. There
are a LOT like her. There are also a LOT of decent young people who would never shame
themselves or commit such wanton violence. But they don't give the air time. And some,
though not all, have in fact been known to change.


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Serrurier


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4 years 4 months ago

rien a fautre
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glorybound9876


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The New World Order is destroying the nation from the inside out. The plan was to demoralize the nation. Then they divide and conquer. Plato's philosophy of government was to have a handful of elite philosophers rule the masses through a subjugated police force. The family unit had to be destroyed. The state had to program children through state run education and keeping the children from knowing their fathers. Fathers were not allowed to live at home and women were to be community property. People were to be told what jobs to have and only given what is necessary to survive. This is the philosophy of the New World Order with the idea of depopulation and total mind control as top priorities. The world leaders sit back and laugh at chaos and people turning on each other. It is an excuse to pay the police to become even more brutal.
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glorybound9876 4 years 4 months ago

The first thing they had to do to demoralize the nation was to get TV programming into
every home, and then get the Bible out of the schools.

MJThompson 4 years 4 months ago

glorybound - So are you advocating we throw out all televisions, not pay police, quit our
jobs, release all the women who are community property, make all fathers stay at home,
take our children out of public education, and assassinate all philosophers? If not,
what's your solution, and if you have no solution, what's your point?

glorybound9876 4 years 4 months ago

Some of what you suggested is right. First, throw out the televisions and put the bible
back in schools. Then work on restoring families. Get rid of the federal reserve bankers
that run everything out if control and are unconstitutional. I know you probably dont
think its a good idea. At this point the toilet has been flushed and the nwo is getting
ready to present the antichrist as the answer to the worlds problems. The only hope anyone
has at this point is to turn to jesus christ in prayer.

BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

There is a separation between church and state for a reason "glorybound9876" and what you
are suggesting if forcing the USA and the world to accept a cult religion that is not what
I signed up for. I am pagan. I don't believe in your god and I sure as hell won't allow
anyone to force a religion upon me whether it be CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM. Ur ideas are
retarded.

glorybound9876 4 years 4 months ago

Actually people sre kept ignorant that the bible was the goundation of the public schools
long before this was a nation. It was in 1963 that the nwo succeeded in getting the bible
removed from schools. Now you can teach aatanism but not the bible . Mass shootings and
teen pregnancies are now common.

glorybound9876 4 years 4 months ago

You are dumbed down by the nwo through tgeir takeover of the mass media and public school
systems over the oast century.

glorybound9876 4 years 4 months ago

Their takeover over the past century. The creation of the unconstitutional federal
reserve bank, and their takeover of the mass media through the council on foreign
relations before 1920 played a keyrole in the overthrow of the nation. Demoralizing the
nation was a key part of taking control to overthrow the nation.


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DPorter


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I wouldn't be surprised if it's a compilation of all the factors you listed. Yet all these factors, and other common ones, are problems in every major city in America. What sparked the riots in Baltimore? I wouldn't dismiss the notion that it was outside forces, aimed purposely to create national attention and government intervention, which always means more government control.
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williamsdwight3


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"Apathy has consequences." #williamsdwight3
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Reporter


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I think #2 & #4 are the answers. That is:

Endemic Poverty that is typical in US cities
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Lack of Hope in typical US city while Wall Street Rich are getting Richer

Keeping in mind that as bad as these Baltimore Riots are they pale in comparison to what is happening in typical US city such as for example Chicago having had a Murder rate that is larger than number of People killed by Taliban in Afghanistan, here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161690/Chicago-crime-More-people-shot-dead-Chicago-killed-duty-Afghanistan.html

While the Wall Street MOFO behind right-wing Media in US get Richer & Richer.
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BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

there are plenty of white people who were middle class that are suffering because they
cannot find work so it's not only black community.

SatanicStones 4 years 4 months ago

Suspend the Constitution, initiate martial law, bring in the Special Forces, shoot to
kill.

BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

really? U lost me at "suspend the constitution"

SatanicStones 4 years 4 months ago

*big smile

BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

1 FINGER LEFT STANDING. GUESS?

Reporter 4 years 4 months ago

BonjuPatten, absolutely true. I did not say that "It is only Black People".
I said the reasons for these Baltimore riots or riots after riots across US cities, and
to be more exact US having a Murder rate that is 40 times of developed World or
incarceration rates that are much higher than all developed Nations is

"the Wall Street MOFO behind right-wing Media in US getting Richer & Richer."
the result of which are no real Change in Washington, and War after War after War for
Israel.


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BonjuPatten


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Something else. These ghetto blacks are used to generational poverty and they cannot seem to get out of their ruts. It is because they are looking for a handout as well as claim Racism any time something happens to them. It is their "get out of trouble"card but it's not working anymore. White people are fed up too with their crap. If they want to join society - let them clean up and fly right.
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MJThompson 4 years 4 months ago

BonjuPatten - I agree with you. I worked for several years in a downtown mission serving
the homeless. Drugs and gang participation provides better subsistence for them than the
minimum wage jobs they're qualified for. We had a saying that proved true time and again:
"You can take a person out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of a person".
There is an attitude peculiar to poor areas that defies conventional decency and respect.
PEACE!

BonjuPatten 4 years 4 months ago

MJ I am sorry that we agree on this issue for the only reason that I wish it were
different. I used to have faith in people that they would rise to the opportunities
offered. Sadly, that is not the case in all people. Everyone is looking for a way out.


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