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teamelitedesire

Joined: 2015-12-06
Location: NETHERLANDS (Holland)
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Posted On: 2015-12-06 18:54:47
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Why are there ALLMOST NO 0% fees crowdfunding platforms out there?

Why is it?
There are ALLMOST NO platform out there that have 0% fees DEDUCTED from all the donations you have gethered through your promotions investments?

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sarah


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1 year 4 months ago

Because then how could the crowdfunding platform pay their expenses and operate as a business.
So as a small business, or business in general, I would have no issue paying 10% or even 20% of fees I raise via a crowdfunding platform to the crowdfunding platform, as long as they can actually raise the funds for us.
So the issue is not whether the crowdfunding platform charges a fee or not, but whether:
they can actually raise the funds for us.

Keeping in mind that crowdfunding platforms such as KickStarter raise funds actually for 0.0001% of the businesses, if even that, who submit to list and raise fund with them. Most people dont realize that since Fake news only covers the 0.00001% who successfully raise funds with them.
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verichip 1 year 4 months ago

WOW! I did not know that:
"KickStarter raise funds actually for 0.0001% of the businesses, if even that"
From reporting on them on CNBC and other financial outlets one gets the impression that
anyone can raise funds through them. I mean the success rate of 0.0001% is same as
raising funds from VCs!

sarah 1 year 4 months ago

Yes, that is the well kept secret. That is average person thinks: "Oh, I will just list on
KickStarter and we raise funds...", but the fact of the matter is that only the listings
that KickStarter selected to feature on their home page and in their email blast raise any
funds. Which is 0.0001% of listings at best. And what is really BAD, is that this
selection is totally at their discretion. So what we small businesses need is a
crowdfunding platform where we can list based on our merits.


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verichip


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1 year 10 months ago

How can the crowdfunding platform make Money to pay their expenses? Which can be considerable if you just have 20 employees which is just about minimum to run a World Class Site. So obviously the crowdfunding platform needs to have a fee, if they are going to be of value.
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sarah 1 year 10 months ago

Again, Very good point.
And Thank you for this excellent insight into this current issue.


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Be2net


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3 years 8 months ago

I totally agree that People are being totally lied to about effectiveness of Crowd Funding sites, since a place like KickStarter only raises funds for something like 0.0000001% of the Sites that apply to it. I mean you are as likely to win the Lottery than raise Money via these Crowd Funding sites.
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sarah 3 years 8 months ago

Is this really True!
How can we find the exact Stats in this regard?

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

If the platform takes % out off your donations there is a motive to keep this info hidden
right!
So the platform would have less a chance of having a motivation to keep this info hidden
!?!
If you dont shoot you will surely miss , if you dont buy a lot you will NOT ever win the
lottery as is with crowdfunding if you do not approach the crowd they will never fund you
on the other hand the banks will likely not lean you the money and if they do you will
surely pay it back with interest!

verichip 1 year 10 months ago

Be2net, that is another issue. That is the fact that Sites like KickStarter only raise
funds for about 0.000001% of businesses that apply, is separate from the fact that a
crowdfunding platform must have a fee, either on funds raised or on regular Monthly basis,
if they are going to be in business, unless some Super Rich benefactor, some Billionaire,
pays all their expenses. Or they have such traffic to be Advertising supported, none of
which can work in case of a crowdfunding site really.

sarah 1 year 10 months ago

Very good point. Thank you for this excellent insight into this current issue.


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kokopuff


Points: 74 | Coach

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3 years 8 months ago

Well the answer should be rather obvious.
Because they need to make Money to pay their expenses. Doh!

So the question is not whether a Crowd Funding places is charging some percentage of fees raised as their pay, but:

1- How many percentage are they charging for raising the money?

2- How successful are they in raising Money? That is what percentage of the time do they actually successfully raise the funds that a company wants to raise via them?

And in fact it is the number 2 Question that we need to really be concreted about, since in fact with most Crowd Funding places like KickStarter, 99.999% of the companies that want to raise fund via them do not raise any Funds via them. It is just that they highlight the 0.001% that do raise funds via them.
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GurdMuller 3 years 8 months ago

Yes, this is very much the answer.
Very good Job Sir.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

nice view kokopuff,

1 Are they (the platform) raising the money? or are you the project manager raising the
money ? so if so "How many percentage are they charging for raising the money?" what
should this be?

2 True "they highlight the 0.001% that do raise funds via them." and 100% of the project
managers do advertisement for these Crowd Funding places for free!

So this is WHY my question!
And yes there are platforms out there that have 0% fees deducted
like bitly.nl/0fees

kokopuff 3 years 8 months ago

So the question is not so much how much fees does a Platform charge for raising funds for
you, but what is their percentage of success. I mean I much rather have 90% of $5-Mill
raised than 100% of 0 raised.

With that said, yes these in the news Crowd Funding places such as Kickstarter,
infigogo, have a very very small success rate. But I can assure you that the site that you
listed has even less, probably near ZERO success rate.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Nope that is not my question!
It is SURELY NOT because i put my project on one of these platforms i will get $5-mill??
RIGHT!
Like you say "99.999% of the companies that want to raise fund via them do not raise any
Funds via them."
So my question is IF "have a very very small success rate" and I have to promote my own
project without help from them and giving them free advertisement why the % cut? for what?
and "probably near ZERO success rate" BASSED ON? experience? PROBABLY NOT!

kokopuff 3 years 8 months ago

Actually that is my Point too.
That is IF you are doing all the promoting of your Fund raising on these CrowFunding
Sites such as Kickstarter, IndiGogo, etc. then indeed there is ZERO reason for you to pay
them any percentage of such funds raised.

But here is the associated fact that most People do not realize, these CrowFunding Sites
such as Kickstarter, IndiGogo, etc. only promote a select group of campaigns, those that
fit their Political agenda, and that is why 99% of campaigns

kokopuff 3 years 8 months ago

on these platforms actually do not raise any Funds.

I think you know these facts. But for those who do not, go ahead and contact
Kickstarter, IndiGogo, etc. and ask them why dont you publish the % of campaigns that have
actually successfully raised funding via you?

And what is criteria by which you will promote one campaign via mass email to your
members, while not promoting 99.999% of campaigns similarly?
And watch the "Wall of Silence" from them.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

"watch the "Wall of Silence" from them." LOL right!
Now a days campaigns are promoted through social channels like facebook, twitter etc
more that the "old" (spammy) mass or bulk emails.

And you are right about "only promote a select group of campaigns, those that
fit their Political agenda".
I think ALL of the platforms are doing this, also the one I endorse bitly.nl/0fees
Because if they do not do this "politically" they maybe shot down for having projects
that may not be legal.

GurdMuller 3 years 8 months ago

In fact you can best campaigns are promoted through Opt-in emails, with intelligent Tech
Savy People avoiding facebook, twitter etc.

And talk about SPAM, that is what you are doing by posting your Site URL here over and
over!

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Ok GurdMuller,
You commented about "intelligent Tech Savy People" are you in this category?
Can you teach us how to do this?
"Opt-in emails" ?? ok so you email some one and on this email you send to them they can
..what put in there email adres that you already have just to be "legally" be spamed over
and over again through your autoresponder?
And this is MY post on MY Question So if you dont like my reply on my post REMOVE
yourself! I'm NOT sending my url to your inbox or "Opt-in email"

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

And i wonder GurdMuller your type of "intelligent Tech Savy People" ...
Why do you AVOID social media? like facebook or twitter?
Why are you HIDING and not replying yourself to people and think a autoresponder is the
"Savy" way??
And Blaming others of not being "intelligent Tech Savy People" just because they do not
ONLY use autoresponders and take the time to personaly answer questions or reply on them.
Instead of your autoresponder answering for you and putting your url over and over ...

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

again in other people email accounts? THIS IS SPAMMING and not me putting, if have it
right 2 times in my REPLY on others ON MY question post!
Do you have a autoresponder that puts your URL max 2 times in people there OWN email
accounts?? REALLY?? SO miss I'm not sorry for NOT spamming my url to NOT your email opt-in
account or is this your personal email account? So if you DONT have anything USEFULL to
say or to teach us about MY TOPIC or QUESTION P.L.S REMOVE yourself SOFORT!

GurdMuller 3 years 8 months ago

When you email someone based on "Opt-in emails" means that it is not SPAM. But you are
sending them information as per their request. Also other part of any "Opt-in emails" is
that if they want to change their mind and no longer be informed of whatever it is they
had signed up for,, that they can follow a link at the bottom of that email to "Opt Out".
This is the smartest and moreover most practically productive was of informing, otherwise
People have to resort to SPAMMING as you done.

GurdMuller 3 years 8 months ago

And I do not use facebook or twitter, because they are controlled by Big Wall Street
Money, so as a Tech Savy person I rather be Free of Big Wall Street controlling this
aspect of my Life too as they already control so many aspects of our Lives already.

And no one said anything about "Auto-responder", only you mentioned that!
For intelligent "Opt in" email has nothing to do with "Auto-responder. example how
Anoox informs members a reply is posted to ones message is via such email.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

So Gurdmuller, people whitout at least a profile I do not take serious.
And you fit this profile or the lack of one!
Surely you are NOT like you say "intelligent Tech Savy People" you dont need to say
NOTTING about "Auto-responder" because you are NOT showing us something new or teaching us
NOTTING "intelligent Tech Savy People" do ....because you are not!
So you use "Opt-in emails" and in this (i hope for you) sales funnel you use there is NO
"Auto-responder" that "legally" SPAM

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

people thier personal email over and over again NOT to be informed of whatever it is they
had signed up for but with pre written tekst WITH your URL sprinkled ALL over it RIGHT!
and NOT ONLY mentioning a url 2 times and you blaming me of spamming for it!
"that they can follow a link at the bottom of that email to "Opt Out".
This is the smartest and moreover most practically productive was of informing" There is
NO "Opt Out" link HERE because THIS is NOT your email account..are you NOW

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Informed miss GurdMuller!
I told you already REMOVE yourself out of MY post, " otherwise
People have to resort to SPAMMING as you done. "
You are undoubtedly NOT a smart person.
No need to "Opt Out" because I NEVER send you a "Opt-in" and I NEVER will .
You wast our time like i ALLREADY told you (not to spam be telling you twice) "if you
DONT have anything USEFULL to say or to teach us about MY TOPIC or QUESTION P.L.S REMOVE
yourself SOFORT!"

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

"For intelligent "Opt in" email has nothing to do with "Auto-responder."
I wonder if you are "intelligent" enough to enlight us or teach us how this would work?
So people you SPAM with your "Opt in" email where they can what? fill in their email
adres where you have send this spammy "Opt in" email of yours then what? you personally
send they the information?? or is it the pre written tekst with your URL sprinkled all
over it by .....in your case NOT a "Auto-responder"?..
Ok i am ALLWAYS

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Willing TO LEARN somthing USEFULL!
If it has NOTHING to do with it......WHAT els is it then?
AND REMEMBER.."if you DONT have anything USEFULL to say or to teach us about MY TOPIC or
QUESTION P.L.S REMOVE yourself SOFORT!"
And if Anoox informs you about MY post on MY Question and you have NOTHING USSFULL to
say "Opt yourself Out" or REMOVE yourself because your useless accusations ARE NOT WELCOME
HERE AND IS CONSIDERED SPAM because WE dont need your USELESS UNSMART COMMENTS! DO you
UNDERSTAND!

kokopuff 3 years 8 months ago

teamelitedesire. it is considered SPAM if you ask a Question and then provide your Site as
the answer.

GurdMuller 3 years 8 months ago

koko, yes exactly. That is the point I was trying to make. But somehow teamelitedesire is
not capable to grasp these basic facts.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Ok first off all @ koko puff and Gurd muller If you are capable of grasping this!
What is MY question? and did I give a answer to MY OWN question? So what is it
then?......
Secondly DO YOU KNOW the definition of Spamming? = unsolicited or undesired electronic
messages!
@ koko puff and gurd muller EXCATLY this what you two are doing on MY post within 15 min
off each other SPAM the rubbish you two are spamming on MY post is NOT usefull we can NOT
learn nothing

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

from your rubbish comments and it is "unsolicited or undesired electronic
messages" on my post or question! SO obviously you bolth have 99.999% Nothing usefull or
asked for or desired info or knowledge to share so DO NOT SPAM MY POST AND REMOVE YOURSELF
you are usefull for and to this post or desired! But somehow you two are not capable to
grasp these basic facts or know a simple thing as what the definition is of Spam.....what
you are doing is SPAMMING!

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

teamelitedesire, what is the Point that you are trying to make?
Because it is the fact that as Koko stated, it is:

"considered SPAM if you ask a Question and then provide your Site as
the answer. "

With that said, what is your position on Crowd Funding?

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

sarah, It is a question i have ask and i try to interact with people that have thier
opinion about my question.
"considered SPAM if you ask a Question and then provide your Site as
the answer."
Do you see my question? and do you see my aswer under it? WHERE? like the reason
is.....? do you know the aswer? (if i allready give the aswer, right?)
Like i try to educate koko puff the definition of SPAM "the definition of Spamming? =
unsolicited or undesired electronic messages!"..so

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

so what koko puff is doing is spamming my post on my question and add usefull info or an
aswer on my question! http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spam

With that cleared, my position on crowdfunding is VERY GOOD thx you!
My opinion about crowdfunding is that the most people miss the point of it origin.
It is based on GIVE then recieve and helping each other to achieve thier goals in live.
No crowdfund campaign will succeed if this is not part of it!
And sadly the most platform out there make

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

thier system about me me me a lot of people also think this way me me me and they will not
succeed with crowdfunding because of this!
Like having as the mean reason of having a crowdfunding platform is to get % from
project managers thier donation BEFORE they even get there! and rather obvious to say to
make Money to pay their expenses??Who makes the expenses of promoting not only your own
project but also free adv for the platform his name? I really do NOT think it is the
platform his expenses

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

If your mindset is set on GREED, then you have NO business in or with crowdfunding!....NOT
even a "crowdfunding" platform!
Because it will not succeed.
You can NOT crowdfund on GREED! the goverment does this allready and will fail sooner or
later!
So in short my opinion about crowdfunding is based on the intention to, YES GIVE AND
THEN RECIEVE. and if you are NOT up for it, DONT do it!
Like if you are not willing to give somthing for free dont expect it back! This is why
my question!

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

Well I agree with your position that GREED Is not good, but then so much out there is
based on GREED, based on Wall Street control of what we do and see, from Google to
Twitter, to etc. and in USA of course this becomes the worst since even the Healthcare
here is based on GREED, based on Maximizing Profits, since it too is Wall Street based
rather than being not-for-profit based as it is in Europe, and elsewhere.

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

But back to Crowd Funding, yes it is a good idea, if it actually works. But from what I
read here and elsewhere, it seems that like 99%+ of Crowd Funding campaigns raise
nothing! So what to do then?

P.S., I see you are from Netherlands. Do you leave near Amsterdam?
How is life there?

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Yes Sarah,
I'm living in the netherlands..europe...and NO! The Healthcare is here is wurse then in
the V.S! It is based on MORE then only Maximizing Profits...for example you are forced to
pay for the "health" insurance each month, but when you need medical help you have to pay
it yourself up to almost 400 euro....SO why pay insurance?? and if you can not pay 100% of
the monthly insurance fee.....what is what happens they again FORCE you to pay 130% for
the same you get when you can not

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

pay 100%!?! NOT JOKING really! so if you can not pay 100% they force you to pay 130% for
the same!
Back to the crowdfunding aspect! I think beside the issue about GREED there are other
points that contribute to the speculation of 99%+ that gets nothing.
Like the limite of time to run your campaign(3months) or that you have to reach your
donation goal or you get nothing, rule some have!
Do not forget ALL the expenses to promote your campaign incl free adv for the platforms
name are YOURS!

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

This is why my question, knowing this!
So WHY do they take % of your donations......and NO it is not to cover thier expenses!
Look at FB they have other ways to get thier share WITHOUT taking a piece from your pie
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And in case there is a "smart" aswer like "Well the answer should be rather
obvious.Because they need to make Money to pay their expenses. Doh!"
NOT! it is possible! and this is WHY i gave my personal secret crowdfunding tool NOT as
an aswer on my question,but as prove it exists!

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

I know more platforms like this.
But NO ONE is asking for it SO!
They rather lie! Without knowing the definition of spam, that i spam my own question
post by providing evidence that it is possible to have a crowdfunding platform with 0%
taken from your donation, without the time limite to run your campaign, that gives you
your donations without earning on it before handing it over to you. Accuse of spam NOT
because of aswering my own question,BUT by aswering on a reply on my post twice?

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

Team,
1st, NO Healthcare is beyond belief worse here in USA that what you have over there in
ND, since typical insurance in USA is an un-affordable $500 per Month in Premiums, but as
bad as that is it gets MUCH WORSE since these plans come with:
A- $10,000 per person per Year in deductibles,
B- Plus 20% co-pays,
etc. rip-offs.

This means for typical American family of 4 having 2 Hospitalizations of about 10 days
each per Year, could easily end up costing an additional $50,000 per Year

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

For more about what a catastrophe Healthcare was and is for many Americans read this:

http://www.realnewspost.org/sa.php?a=64892

About crowdfunding, as others have noted problem is than unless the crowdfunding Site
emails their members about your campaign and/or puts it on their home-page, then you are
left to do the crowdfunding on your own, which is totally useless then of coming to that
crowdfunding site, set aside pay them a % of funds raised.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

wauw! what an article Sarah...ok little bite more understanding!
If they do not help you promote your project, they should not need to eat % of your
donations right!
And if you give up on your dream or ambition ..NO ONE els is going to make your dream
come true! You have to believe in your dream and GO 4 IT!
Your goverment is not going to help you, your "Boss" is not going to help you and the
banks are not going to help you, but they are going to try to take more from you! So
crowdfund i say!

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

TD, well that article is not by me, but a very good article in describing the catastrophe
that Healthcare is for too many Americans. Thanks to the Wall Street Billionaires than
Controls Republicans and Democrats in USA, via their control of US Media. Now the thing to
realize is that if they would do this to American People regarding Healthcare, what other
lies and wrongs are they capable of. And of course the result of which is that US is
engaged in War after War after War

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

using most amazing lies, and which lies is a drop in the ocean of lies they have said
about State of Healthcare in US. Now keep in mind that this same Wall Street Money
(Powers) are behind also Google, Facebook, etc.

About Crowd Funding, yes I agree that it can be a very positive thing.
The question is how do you find Crowd Funding Site that actually delivers results?

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Well Sarah,
"Wall Street Money (Powers) are behind also Google, Facebook, etc"
It is NOT the "wall street money or powers"!
You do know there is a world bank? owned by Private people? like rothschild etc etc? I
do not want to be labeled as spamming so search for yourself @ "agenda 21" maybe you will
see the BIG PICTURE!
Sorry crowdfunding platform ONLY delivers the platform for you to do your crowdfunding
NOTHING more! The RESULTS are comming from your own efforts, this is why my % question

sarah 3 years 8 months ago

World bank is minuscule compared to Wall Street money & powers, and in fact it too is
controlled by same. More to the point, who controls the US Media from CNN to Fox, etc.?
Same Wall Street money & powers that control Google, FB, etc.

About crowdfunding, if we are going to do the crowdfunding on "our own efforts", then
why do we need the crowdfunding platforms at all! We will then just email "our own
efforts", to send us payment. So yes on the % question.

teamelitedesire 3 years 7 months ago

LOL ok "World bank is minuscule compared to Wall Street money & powers"
With what money do they (Wall Street money & powers) and the whole world do what they
do?
Who owns ALL the money?
YES they are controlled by the same!..being "minuscule"!
About crowdfunding,
Have you ever done a campaign for whatever?
Why does MC donalds need to spend money on advertisement?
Why do they need to promote themselfs..Allmost everbody knows them right!
And still they use other platforms to promote

teamelitedesire 3 years 7 months ago

thier goals, right?
And 4 example if MC promote themselfs through advertisement on TV.....Does the TV
company or the platform which they use to advertise DEDUCT % from the winnings they get
from thier efforts of promoting themselfs?
.....I DO NOT THINK SO!
The mean reason for a crowdfunding platform is the CROWD and not the platform, so if a
platform gives VALUE to the CROWD it may help you with your crowdfunding campaign.
The most platforms gives restrictions instead of value to the crowd.

sarah 3 years 7 months ago

MCDonalds and other Mega Corporations spend Money on Advertising, because that is a Key
part of their business plan, which is to spend on average about 7% of Sales on
Advertising.

And Yes the only real value that a crowdfunding site brings is the Crowd, so if they do
not provide you the Crowd, which they do not do so with great majority of their listings,
then they have in fact provided you (the lister) NO Value but have just wasted your time.

teamelitedesire 3 years 6 months ago

@ sarah, building and producing some one els his/her dream, vision or ambition, what most
people do by just having a "job" to just pay the bills. This is a wast of your time!
Employer=create Employee=produce Think about it for a while...
And I dont want to sound spammy, but did you check my profile?
There are crowdfunding platforms that surely provide you Value and less restrictions,
like NO FEES, NO TIME FRAME AND you are NO on your own to achieve your donations or to
promote your project.

sarah 3 years 6 months ago

So lets say I want to raise funds to open a Restaurant (night club), which crowdfunding
platforms would enable me to do so?
More to the point, which crowdfunding platforms have had a decent rate of success when
it comes to raising Funds for a Restaurant (night club)?

teamelitedesire 3 years 6 months ago

Sarah,
I do not think you have read this "And I dont want to sound spammy, but did you check my
profile?" (I think you may find your answer)
Do you know some one that needs money for something that's important to them? (like
raising funds to open a Restaurant/night club)
AND inorder to start having success with this is fun and rewarding.
Make a difference in just two lives and watch how your live can change for the better!


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3 years 8 months ago

Because some-body some where needs to make a profit, at the point of sale. If someone claims to have no fee's I expect the charge is made else where within the transaction.
Why do you ask?
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theunknownauthor 3 years 8 months ago

Sorry to say this is the real world, there is very little for free even if you are told it
is free.
Someone somehwere makes money and/or profit or they gain some how, perhaps by
advertising but there are truly no free meals ever!

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

I agree nickbailey,
"Because some-body some where needs to make a profit, at the point of sale."
Surely there will be fees paid sooner or later, like the banking system does like FEES
like ALLWAYS!
But my question is about the Crowd Funding places or platforms why are they taking a
piece of your pie?
Every bussiness that DELIVERS a service asks a prize for it!
In most of the cases a project manager does ALL the work of promoting incl promoting the
platform for free and want some % too??

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Sadly theunknownauthor,
Most of the time what we think of "the real world" is based on what is told to us and
NOT what we ourselfs find out! So it is like a story that is told to us and we believe
"blindly" in it and say it is "REAL"?!?
This maybe true "Someone some where makes money and/or profit or they gain some how"
If i buy a meal for a homeless person, truly the meal is NOT free for me!
But it SURELY is free for the one that recieves it from me! RIGHT!

theunknownauthor 3 years 8 months ago

Yes right you bought the meal but why, did you feel good doing so or did you get some sort
of satisfaction, if so you have gained.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

"there are truly no free meals ever!" that was a point your tried to make? RIGHT!
Or is it about "gaining" something?
Yes is feels WONDERFULL to help people in need!
And NO, there are still people in the world that care for other people and do this and
gif for free like meals.
"did you feel good doing so or did you get some sort
of satisfaction" What in life do you do without this in mind?
Or do you do things in your life ONLY to gain something?

theunknownauthor 3 years 8 months ago

Yes even though you don't make financial gains, you do gain in so far as you got
satisfaction from your deed, a good feeling is often reward enough for kind and thoughtful
people. Of which there are many but few as a percentage.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

So YES there are "FREE MEALS" even though somewhere, some how, some body have to pay for
it! This beside the point if this person feels good or gets a reward for it he or she WILL
be BLESSED for it!
And it is true there are to few people like this in the world today!
So to come back to your first comment...."YES there are "FREE MEALS" out there! But are
you willing to accept it or do you feel that you are to good to recieve it?

theunknownauthor 3 years 8 months ago

How can it be a free meal if someone pays for it, it is only free if it is given to you
but then you have to pay for it by accepting charity which is also a price to pay.

teamelitedesire 3 years 8 months ago

Amen.
Good point of view..."question and a nice answer."
like they say "First, one must sow… then one may reap."
or this one "We can choose what we sow, but not what we reap"
And i ENJOY the part where you in comparison sow little to what you recieve multiplied
back when reaping.


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