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Lux_Report

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Points: 282 | DemiGOD

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What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?


Donald Trump’s speech about Afghanistan promises to intensify US involvement in Afghanistan. This represents a complete u-turn for the man who backed troop withdrawal and blasted
his White House predecessors for futile missions that were a “complete waste.”

Trump 2013
"We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!"

But now he has given a speech which is nearly identical to what Obama gave about Afghanistan in 2012 or Hillary Clinton was giving. Namely to summarize:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
Since when leaving a War after 16 Years of having waged it is "leaving hastily"?
And then he said: "We are going to now wage the Afghan War to Win it..."
So are you saying that last 16 Years we were waging the Afghan War to loose it?
And why is China that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist and has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and ZERO Dollar Spent to defend against these "horrific Terrorists" and instead spent the same Trillions on building High Speed Trains, Renewable Energy, etc.. What do you think?

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ricoism


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Trump speeches are incoherent how could really understand such incompetent president
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Yes2goodideas 1 year 3 months ago

Well Trump is just the latest SCAM of Wall Street Billionares on American People. So they
put up this psychotic buffoon as their latest tool, knowing that since they also control
the entire Big Media from CNN to MSNBC to Fox to Hollywood, they will be able to fool
American People into submission. Lets just hope that more American people find out about
this non-Wall Street based Anoox social search network so that we can get the Truth out
and put an end to these mind f***g of our people.

Lux_Report 8 months 1 week ago

Yes, you can say that again.
Question is how can such a Clown, such a Buffoon, be elected to President?
In any normal Country he would not be elected to run an Insane Asylum!
But then in any normal Country they would not be in War with a Country ( Afghanistan )
10000 Miles from that Country for 17 Years under the Parties (Democrats & Repugs) that
People of that Country have to chose from! While China that BORDERS same Afghanistan, has
spent ZERO Dollars/Soldiers fighting a War in that Country!


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PunchMan


Points: 170 | Sage

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1 year 8 months ago

Just more proof that Military Industrial Complex / Wall Street / Israel Lobby; lock stock and barrel controls this fraud Trump, just as they did with Obama. For Obama carried all Bush Wars and added a few to them, and Trump is promising to carry all Obama Wars and a few to them, even a Nuclear War with NK. And the other day they had this program about Millions of American marching against the (one) Vietnam War, yet today we have like 7 Wars under Obama -> Trump, and there are NO Million+ man marches against these Wars as there was against (one) Vietnam War. And back then there was No email or Social Media as there is today, yet the American people today are not even able to organize and march as they during Vietnam!
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GoldCoast


Points: 254 | DemiGOD

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Trump speech about Afghanistan War is just more proof of what fraud Trump and his brain washed followers are, for Trump when Obama was in power repeatedly stated what "Waste of our Money and lives Afghan War is..." as of course it is, since China that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, has no fear of Taliban Alqaeda etc Fear Mongering BS as China has spent no money or lives in fighting even a day in Afghanistan, while USA under Bush_Obama_Trump is ooooooooh so scared of the Bogye Man of Terrorist in Afghanistan, leading to an endless War there and waste of our Money (Taxes). When are American people going to wake up as to how Military Indsutrial complex controls these Trump_Obama_media Axis.
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PunchMan 1 year 8 months ago

Indeed, Frump speech about Afghanistan War was Carbon Copy of Obama which was carbon copy
of Bush. No Change - No HOPE - While Wall Street hits one Record HIGH after another
Record HIGH after another Record HIGH. That sums up the scam that is life and News in
USA. While China is wasting ZERO on this War as all other Bush_Obama_Trump Wars and
instead investing same Trillions in Chinese People & Cities.


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prophet


Points: 141 | Scholar

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2 years 5 days ago

The famous American linguist and philosopher, NOAM CHOMSKY, once said: "EVERYBODY IS WORRIED ABOUT STOPPING TERRORISM. WELL, THERE IS AN EASY WAY OF ELIMINATING IT. STOP PARTICIPATING IN IT."
Kind regards,
John Romer
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barista 1 year 11 months ago

Yes Trump speech was near copy of Obama speech from 8 years ago which was near copy of
Bush speech from 12 years ago! Meanwhile domestic Terrorist group NRA which is supported
by GOP and right wing Media such as Fox just killed 59 Americans in Vegas! When are we
going to wake up to who the real Terror is!

Wheeler61 1 year 11 months ago

barista,

This is true mainly because Trump has no original ideas of his own, except perhaps going
bankrupt for further profit. He has absolutely no qualifications to be POTUS, and most
people are beginning to see that.

We would have had sensible gun control years ago if Washington politicians, both
Democrats and Republicans, and not sold out to the NRA years ago. Both parties have no
problem accepting NRA campaign contributions, although members of the GOP take more.

anxcjk 1 year 10 months ago

hjk


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kokopuff


Points: 74 | Coach

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Trump & Obama and their speeches about continuing the Afghanistan War, after 8 Years in case of Obama, and after 16 Years in case of Trump, are final proof that the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) and their Wall Street buddies that make Fortune from these non ending Wars run USA and not American People (Democracy).
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Wheeler61


Points: 35 | Capitan

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2 years 3 weeks ago

I thought that speech just displayed the usual hypocrisy that has become synonymous of Donald Trump and his entire administration. He is reversing his previous stance on the issue of Afghanistan. During his campaign Donald Trump said against anymore warfare in Afghanistan, and that the United States should take care of the United States first.

I can't say is I really surprised by his reversing his position because that has become his usual pattern of behavior. I wish I can say I was surprised, or caught off guard by his reversal, but I cannot.
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ThinkDeep 2 years 2 weeks ago

Wheeler, you have said it right. But the speech displayed the usual hypocrisy that has
become synonymous of entire US administration. For the speech that he gave is nearly
identical to what Obama gave 8 Years ago and what Hillary gave, which to summarize it was:
"If we leave Afghanistan too hastily all that we have won would be for not and Terrorist
will take over as they in Iraq upon Obama leaving as per Bush time line", which is
non-sense upon non-sense. Given the fact that:
1- USA has been

ThinkDeep 2 years 2 weeks ago

in Afghanistan (War) for an unbelievable 16 Years now under Republicans and Democrats,
while China that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, has been in Afghanistan
for ZERO days of Wars and has spent ZERO on such War.

2- Iraq War a War based on lies, is what that lead to creation of ISIS

And now the Psycho Trump is talking about Nuclear War with North Korea?
While again China that borders, repeat borders, North Korea is not. Or Canada that
borders us, is NOT.

When are the

ThinkDeep 2 years 2 weeks ago

American People going to Wake UP to the fact that the Military Industrial Complex (aka War
Mongers) control US, via their control of Wall Street based rightWing Media! And they are
wasting our lives and Money on War after War, while other Nations are investing same Money
in their Countries infrastructure, etc. so that little rain as in Huston does not cause
catastrophe!

For more:
http://www.realnewspost.org/sa.php?a=67318
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

kokopuff 2 years 2 weeks ago

TD, you have nailed it man. US is controlled by the MIC and Israel lobby. And that is why
US has been in Iraq and Afganistan, so that Iran is kept in a grip. Damn be the cost to
American people and truth

Wheeler61 2 years 2 weeks ago

I'm afraid the American people will never wake up, even though we have been involved in
warfare since the beginning of this country. As long as the status quo system is allowed
to exist in its present form, nothing will change. As long as warfare is profitable,
nothing will change. With making peace instead of war becomes more profitable, I'm afraid
that things will remain as they are. Of course, the American people can always change
things if they can give up their petty squabbling, and unify.

Reporter 2 years 2 weeks ago

But WHY, American people are not waking up to the fact that the Military Industrial
Complex has total control of Republicans, Democrats and Big Media, and is Fear Mongering
US into War after War after War, and hence wasting the American Nation's Life and Future
on these Wars that make Trillions for Wall Street Military Industrial Complex, at the
expense of American Cities and People having become waste lands compared to European
Cities. WHY?
How is it that American People cannot ask

Reporter 2 years 2 weeks ago

themselves:

WHY is it that USA under Republicans & Democrats has been engaged in War on Afghanistan
for an unbelievable 16 Years at cost of about 3 Trillion Dollars, 2000+ US Soldiers
Killed, 100,000+ Afghans KILLED, while China the 2nd largest economy in the World that
borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, is engaged in ZERO such War!

WHY? Because US Media is a right-wing lying Machine. And unless We the People face this
FACT, nothing will change.

Wheeler61 2 years 2 weeks ago

Reporter,

They were saying the exact same thing back in the 60s, but people still do not wake up to
the fact that war accomplishes absolutely nothing for anyone other than the defense
contractors and war profiteers.

We cannot blame this entire mess on the media because, even though they are in
collaboration in spreading lies, they are not the source of the lies, the government is.
True democracy in the United States has become a bad joke, I'm afraid.

Yes2goodideas 2 years 2 weeks ago

Wheeler61, but the Big Media, from CBS to CNN to MSNBC to Fox and the Psychos on
TalkRadio, etc. are all controlled by the same Wall Street Money that also controls the
Republicans and Democrats. And that is why you/we indeed need to blame the Media for USA
being engaged in War after War after War, at cost of Trillions of Dollars to American
People, while Canada is not, China is not.
But we need to keep in mind that Big Media is also Hollywood, Google, Facebook, etc.

Yes2goodideas 2 years 2 weeks ago

For example search on Google:

WHY has USA been engaged in War on Afghanistan for 16 Years at cost of Trillions of
Dollars, while China the 2nd largest economy in the World that borders Afghanistan, repeat
borders Afghanistan, has spent ZERO Days and Dollars on this War

There are 1000s of documents based on this question which would highlight the Republican
Democrats lies to sell this War, as in other Wars, but all these documents are missing
from Google search results.

Wheeler61 2 years 2 weeks ago

Yes2goodideas,

Since Google is one of the largest multinational, multibillion-dollar corporations in the
world, are you really surprised? Actually, I would be very surprised to find these
documents available on Google, or anyone else.

The only way you will ever have access to these documents is either if you have security
clearance, or know someone who is deeply embedded in the government with a security
clearance. These types of documents are always kept deeply buried out of sight.

World 2 years 2 weeks ago

I am glad you all have woken up to the fact that Google, just as CNN MSNBC Fox, etc. is a
part and parcel of the Wall Street Military Industrial Complex, and that is why USA is
engaged in War after War, because these organs of Wall Street MIC Fear Monger and Hate
Monger to sell these Wars, from which Wars they make Trillions of Dollars, damn be the
American People, set aside Millions they kill around the World. The only real question is
how in GODs name American people are not on the street by

World 2 years 2 weeks ago

the Millions and demonstrating for real change to these Republican Democrat Wall Street
War Mongering, which again just makes Trillions for Wall Street and damn be everyone
else. Here is a glimpse into these facts:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/defense-stocks-surge-on-north-korea-tensions-mega-deal.ht
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kokopuff


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I was flabbergasted. After 16 Years waging this War, longer than WWI + WWII + Civil War, he can somehow by some Osmosis look at his Audience and actually state: "If we leave Afghanistan hastily this will give blahblah to Terrorist". And then also added "Look at that we left Iraq too soon and that created ISIS".
Answer to 1st non-sense is since when leaving a War longer than WWI + WWII + Civil War, is leaving it too hastily? And the unjust unnecessary Iraq War that destroyed the secular regime that lead that Country created ISIS, since there was zero ISIS in Iraq before the unnecessary Iraq War that your buddies started.
Ah, whats the point :(
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Regal


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Election of Trump and his promise to wage even more Wars than Bush and Obama with their 7 Wars and 1-Million+ they Killed and $6-Trillion of our Money they wasted, is a reminder that USA is not a Nation but an Abomination. That is a Nation controlled by Military Industrial Complex. I mean just look at our Northern neighbor Canada, it has Zero troops in Afghanistan, it is bombing Zero Muslim Countries, it has Government run Socialized Healthcare, yet this "American Psycho" Trump was elected who is promising even more Wars than Bush and Obama, such as threatening North Korea with Nuclear War and Killing Millions, and calls the 16 Years Afghanistan War to be too short a War which is same as the Psycho saying if we leave Afghanistan now that would be a "Hasty"! Really sick :(
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Lux_Report 2 years 3 weeks ago

"USA is not a Nation but an Abomination."
I am afraid you have hit the nail on the head. But question is how is this possible? How
did we become a Country where Bush wages War on 2 Countries, Obama runs on "I am going to
change the War Mongering mentality" and then wages War on 3 MORE Countries and then this
"True Psycho" Trump is elected who promises even MORE Wars! Why are American People not on
the street and asking why are we in constant War and Canada in constant Peace?

kokopuff 2 years 3 weeks ago

We came such as Country by We the People getting our News from a right-wing lying Media
and by not having real consciousness.


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Wheeler61


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I think that Donald Trump's speech typifies the mentality of the average American politician; lots of words, no meaning. Hasn't anyone, most of all politicians, got a clue that maybe we were meant to win this war? Does anyone actually "win" a war?

China probably doesn't get involved because they figure that the United States will do all of the dirty work and heavy lifting in this situation. They are correct. The United States puts itself in the position where we always get screwed. It's almost like we are begging for it.

The United States needs to wake up and realize that we are not the cops of the world, even though big business always makes money during a war. We need to find other solutions to problems other than killing people in foreign nations. It's time we started paying attention to what's happening here at home, and let other countries sort out their problems.
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Regal 2 years 3 weeks ago

Wheeler61, very well said. My only question is why aren't American People out on the
street by the Millions asking for an END to these non-Stop Wars by these Repugs and
Democrats which obviously controlled by the Military Industrial Complex. I mean can you
imagine if the Prime Minister of Canada would say lets invade Afghanistan and build a Wall
between US and Canada. They would lock him up in an insane Asylum which is where this
Psycho Trump belongs at.

Lux_Report 2 years 3 weeks ago

Wheeler61, Yes you can actually Win a War, if you are fighting a real Nation with an Army,
Navy, Air Force, etc.. But NO You cannot win an imaginary made up War by the wall Street
Military Industrial Complex, which is Afghanistan War, War on ISIS, etc. when the enemy
are the People of that Nation and they have NO Army, NO Navy, NO Air Force, etc.

Wheeler61 2 years 2 weeks ago

Lux_Report,

I politely disagree. No one ever wins the war, because there will always be casualties
who don't deserve to die. This is the case no matter if you are fighting a nation, or a
bunch of guerrillas out in a jungle or desert. Some innocent person will always pay the
ultimate price of giving up the life for some so-called "cause" that really doesn't mean a
damn thing in the long run.


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World_Traveler


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There was so much garbage and lies and non-sense in Trump speech about Afghanistan War to try to address each would be a waste of my time, since any intelligent, aka non- White Trash White Supremacist, knows by now that Trump is a lying sociopath and that all he cares about is the MIC, Wall Street & Israel. Beside people below have taken a good crack at these already. I would just like to point out the amazingly bizarre rubbish that Trump said about India, "the Largest Democracy in the World" should help us defeat this enemy. Really India! Indians are such wooose that a Country of 1.2-Billion People won 1 Bronze Medal in last Olympic! Such woose that India has never ever even qualified to play in any major sporting event such as World Cup. etc. And India is as far as you can go from real Democracy.
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Regal 2 years 3 weeks ago

WT, very well said. My only question is why aren't American People out on the street by
the Millions asking for an END to these non-Stop Wars by these Repugs and Democrats which
obviously controlled by the Military Industrial Complex.
What is wrong with American People!

Wheeler61 2 years 1 week ago

Regal,

I'm afraid you give the American people more credit than we deserve. Not since the
antiwar movement or civil rights movement of the 60s, have Americans been able to get
together and be united about anything. The only exception might be fighting against the
fascism of Donald Trump and his followers. Unfortunately, much of that has resulted in the
type of violence it only serves to create divisions among people; the last thing we need.


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Reporter


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What do you think of Trump speech about Afghanistan War?
Just a repeat of the reasons that Obama and Bush gave for carrying out the Afghan War! A War that is a total waste of our Money and lives, which facts Trump the civilians had stated on many occasions. But in proofing what a real sociopath he is, just as all his other statements he either has flipped flopped on them or they were total lies. So I guess we have gone from "Make America Great" to "Make Afghanistan Great" or more like "Bomb Afghanistan into further dust while China takes the same Trillions that Obama_Trump waste on War after War and invests them in their modern infrastructure & transportation, etc. while infrastructure transportation in USA are 1950 era embarrassingly decrepit.
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Lux_Report 2 years 4 weeks ago

So very True. You could have taken Obama's face from 2012 speech he gave at West Point and
put it on Trump face last night. And the same lies were pouring out of both or same face.
Specially this gem of a BS:
"If we leave Afghanistan hastily that will embolden the Terrorist.."
When the fact is staying at a poor Islamic Country and Bombing its People into dead
people will create Terrorist, as per the fact that US War on Iraq created ISIS. But of
course that is what they really want it seems.

World_Traveler 2 years 4 weeks ago

Yes, to the War Mongers and Hate Mongers waging War on a dirt poor Country such as
Afghanistan, even after 16 Years of such War is not enough. After all they are making so
many Billions from these wasteful War, why bother with the Truth.

Wheeler61 2 years 4 weeks ago

You have the right idea. The only people that benefit from any war is the war profiteers
(a.k.a. arms manufacturers, defense contractors). We waste so much money in foreign
countries then we neglect our own people here at home.


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ThinkDeep


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To follow up on your China part: you want to see what a Fear Mongering Hate Mongering SCAM this never Ending Afghanistan War is on US by the Wall Street based MIC right-wing Media? Ask this question:

Why is China the 2nd largest economy in the World, repeat the 2nd largest economy in the World, that borders Afghanistan, repeat borders Afghanistan, sees no threat from Terrorist in Afghanistan and hence has had ZERO troops in Afghanistan and spent ZERO Dollar to fight these "horrific Terrorists" in Afghanistan?

In this Question, set aside its Answer, you have all the Fear Mongering SCAM that right-wing Media are playing on US.
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Lux_Report 2 years 4 weeks ago

Because the actual threat from these rag tag bunch of people in Afghanistan, aka Taliban
dressed in Pajamas, with ZERO Fighter Jets, ZERO Navy, ZERO Tanks, etc. ZERO Weapons is
actually ZERO.

Reporter 2 years 4 weeks ago

Yes, how in Gods name is Taliban going to be a threat to USA when it has ZERO Ships, ZERO
Air craft, ZERO Submarines, etc. ZERO real Weapons. I guess the Taliban or the Muslims
going to fire a Bolt of Lightning out of their asses at us :)
And this is why Republicans and Democrats are so frightened by them. Or they just think
right-wing Wall Street Media which is entire US Media will sell any non-sense to American
People.

Wheeler61 2 years 5 days ago

Reporter,

The North Vietnamese had ZERO ships, except for a few fishing boats. Only about 25-28
secondhand Migs at their disposal at any one time, and they handed the United States our
asses, during the Vietnam War. One can really do a lot with very little, if you are
determined to fight off an enemy; something which unfortunately the United States has
chosen to make itself into to just about everyone.

The Democrats and Republicans are less frightened by them that they are losing their
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DisWay


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There was a coup in Washington, and it happened in November 22. 1963. Time to admit to this obvious fact. As long as the military (Industrial Complex) is in control, there is going to be constant warfare. If there are no enemies to fight they will be invented, such as ISIS which of course is the result of the Iraq War which was a War based on total lies. So Trump, Obama, same old same old lies to sell Wars after Wars.
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Lux_Report 2 years 4 weeks ago

That is an interesting view of things. Not sure totally agree with the literal definition
of a " coup in Washington". But maybe same in Wall Street.

Wheeler61 2 years 1 week ago

Lux Report,

DisWay was referring to the Kennedy assassination in 1963, which was probably perpetrated
by the CIA. Describing this incident as a coup is quite accurate, because after that
incident, we never had a president who was a real freethinker, like John F. Kennedy.

Ever since that time, no American president has been free of the military-industrial
complex. This entity has controlled every one of them. Some more than others.

kokopuff 2 years 1 week ago

I hate to believe this is True. That is Kennedy was assassinated by the
military-industrial complex. Because then there is little hope for US, for real Change,
for stopping the War after War by MIC & Wall Street Complex. But the more I see, the more
I am afraid this to be the Truth :(


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PunchMan


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Its because he is not in control. He is just a puppet of MIC and AIPAC, who want Perpetual Wars. And making American People miserable from these Wars and making more Trillions for Wall Street 0.1%
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DisWay 2 years 4 weeks ago

Exactly. He would not have become Prez if he had not pandered to AIPAC. Look what happned
to Ron Paul in 2012.


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Fedinand


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To the wall that Mexico is not going to pay for, to China not being labeled a currency manipulator, to US spending on NATO rather than being eliminated actually being increased, to no $1-Trillion investment on rebuilding nation’s highways, railroads and airports, President Donald Trump can now add the Afghanistan war still not ending.

What a FRAUD this guy is. But in fact he is just as big as a fraud as Obama. That is both are controlled by same Wall Street Military Industrial Cabal. Only question is when are American people going to wake up this Mega SCAM on US!
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PunchMan 2 years 4 weeks ago

Yes, indeed what a fraud. He has broken just above everyone of his Campaign promises.

DisWay 2 years 4 weeks ago

It is because Trump is NOT running the show, The AIPAK, And the Arms Industry is!!!

Wheeler61 2 years 5 days ago

DisWay,

What you say is very true. However, we must also not forget that Donald Trump has made a
fortune filing for bankruptcy. The only type of bankruptcy that he did not file for his
bankruptcy of morals and ethics. He is not capable of running any other show than a
performance in bankruptcy court.


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