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Posted On: 2019-08-05 14:04:56
Will Elpaso Dayton shootings finally get American people say enough?
Another week, another Mass shooting in USA due to insane Gun laws Trump/Republicans/Fox etc right-wing Media support and also due to non-STOP Hate they spew:
22 Americans Killed in Elpaso Texas 40 Injured
9 Americans Killed in Dayton Ohio 10 Injured
And as horrific as these stats are, they pale in comparison to the fact that USA has average of 1 Mass shooting per Week or 30,000 Americans shot dead per Year, which is 2500% worse than other developed Nations:
About which massacre of American People Trump Republicans done nothing, in fact Trump gone to NRA and promised nothing will be done:
While in UK, Australia, etc. after 1 Mass shooting 20 years ago their Conservative parties passed strict Gun bans as result of which they have had 1 Mass shootings in 20 years:
My question is:
How many more Mass shooting of American People, before WE finally stand UP and say enough is enough? Or will we again be mocked by (Republicans) going to Church and Praying and do nothing else again?
Now to see these are real People, look at Photo of beautiful Jordan Anchondo killed at ElPaso shooting, mother of 3 :(
Sam, that permission to defend ourselves comes from a much higher power than government. The U.S. government decided from the beginning that private ownership of firearms was a right belonging only to the people. This is a right so basic here that those who are against it will not be prevented from moving to a country that controls it. This right to move, out of the U.S., is also held sacred by our government.
Trump Republican Fox viewing psycho: what you call the "permission to defend ourselves" is resulting in 1 Mass shooting slaughter of American People after another; while in UK, Australia, etc. whom passed strict Gun bans decades ago, and by their Conservative parties too, they have had almost ZERO mass shooting in 20 Years. So strict Gun bans result in 99% far better defending of ourselves than having the insane Gun laws we have in USA thanks to lies of right-wing Media.
There are extremely sensible gun laws that are not in the U.S., but they are not being obeyed or punished when broken.
Liberal politics is responsible for such a problem or does Chicago blame the trouble on Black Supremacists?
If France had not had a gun ban, an armed citizen could have stopped a Muslim Supremacist from killing 86 people and injuring 458 with a TRUCK!
You CNN & MSNBC viewing sheep might someday be led to slaughter by a gun-grabbing government. It has happened before.
There are apparently a few occasions where it can be argued that "good guys" with guns stopped potential mass shootings, but it is a drop in the ocean against the 33,000 US guns deaths a year, including suicides, domestic violence etc - THIRTY THREE THOUSAND. How could more guns possibly REDUCE this number???
The answer to these weekly Mass Shooting of American people about which Trump Republicans and Democrats in Congress do nothing about, is to declare NRA a Terrorist organization and cease all its assets and Jail all its leaders such as Wayne Lapier of whatever the f***s name is. And San Francisco just did that:
Could not agree more. Now let's reel in as co-conspirators: the Trump Republican, Fox, Wall Street Journal and the psychos on TalkRadio, who support NRA or to be exact are controlled by NRA money. DAMN the American People 😡
If you want to stop these shootings disarm the criminal Democrats.
Not one single NRA member or Republican is known to have ever committed a mass-shooting. But I guess that doesn't fit your false narrative or satisfy your need to hate.
NRA members don't shoot people (perhaps). They just sell the weapons to people who do. Whilst most shooters don't conveniently carry party membership cards, some are clearly white supremacists, the sort of supporter that Mr Trump encourages.
delphradio, it is pointless to present facts to Trump Republican lunatics. NO Matter how many times one presents to them how it is that UK, Australia, Japan, Italy, Sweden, etc. have Zero to 1 Mass shootings per 20 Years while USA has avg of 1 Mass shooting per Week, which is due to the fact they have sensible strict Gun laws, the psychos will come back and throw another rant. So whether it is about Guns, Healthcare, Climate change, etc. Trump Republicans are on the psycho wrong side 😡
D.R., your errors in judgement are obviously a result of misinformation and apparently Reporter and others, like him have had their desired effect on you. Their prevarications permeate these Anoox discussions. You are taking up their dishonesty when you can't give a straight answer to a straight question.
The correct answer has nothing to do with membership cards or white supremacy. The correct answer is that no NRA member and no known Republican has ever committed a mass shooting. Who is left?
The answer has been known all along. The vast majority of violent crimes committed in the U.S. are by people who vote for, support or are dependent on Democrats.
This simple truth is well known to both parties and has not changed in over six decades. The Democrats have even tried to lay the blame on their minority members. There were several studies that once appeared online but like the Texas shooter's bio they have also vanished from the progressive controlled internet. Stop being a...
TOS Trump Republican Fox viewing lunatic. FACTS, They have:
ZERO Mass shootings in Japan over last 20 years
ZERO Mass shootings in S Korea last 20 years
1 Mass shootings in UK last 20 years
1 Mass shootings in AUS last 20 years
And what do they all have in common? Strict Gun laws.
Meanwhile here in USA we have avg 1 Mass shooting per Week and Republican infested states such as Texas have most number of Mass shootings.
Above facts are 100% proof of what True Enemy within Republican/Fox are 😡
Like everything else you say there is very little truth in your statement, meaning it isn't a fact.
Since gun confiscation, these mass shootings have taken place in Australia:
Wright St. Biker murders, 8 October 1999, Adelaide, Australia 3 killed, 2 wounded
Monash University shooting, 21 October 2002, Melbourne, Victoria, 2 killed, 5 wounded
Oakhampton Heights Shooting, 20 March 2005, Hunter Valley, New South Wales, 4 killed
Hunt family murders, 9 September 2014, Lockhart, New South Wales, 5 killed
2014 Sydney hostage crisis, 15 - 16 December 2014, Sydney, NSW 3 killed, 1 wounded
Osmington shooting, 11 May 2018, Osmington, Western Australia, 7 killed
June 2019 Darwin Shooting, June 4, 2019, Darwin, Northern Territory, 4 killed, 1 wounded
Many others took place but the weapons were bombs, clubs, knives and arson, with probably a few more from guns.
Since your "truth" has now been PROVEN false then your
Moron, a Mass shooting is considered to be 4 or more People shot dead. Here idiot:
So based on that basis of the Shootings you have listed in Australia over last 20 Years, only 1 is considered to be a Mass shooting. Which means Sarah and everyone else who has been stating this FACT is correct and you Trump Republicans have proven yourself again to be the lunatic you are.
And you want further proof of what brain dead f***k brain you Trump Repugs are:
RealDumb, If a mass shooting is 5 or more people killed or wounded, then there were at least five such incidents, not one. In simple terms - Sarah LIED.
You seem anxious to support Sarah's anti-facts Nazi propaganda. Headlines don't mean factual.
You like to call others morons, but if you can't even count, those morons are geniuses compared to you.
BTW, The FBI defines a mass killing as any instance in which three or more people are killed, not counting the suspected killer.
Mass shootings are defined by the Australian Institute of Criminology as those resulting in at least four deaths excluding the perpetrator.
By either definition both the poorly named "Real_Patriot" and Sarah are agenda driven liars. They are employing a common Nazi tactic to change the story. They also seem to harbor swastika waving hatred of Jewish people.
TOS the Trump Republican psycho, it is the FACT that Australia has had 1 Mass shooting in 20 Years since they passed strict Gun bans. Same goes for UK. Compare this to average of 1 Mass shooting per Week in USA under Obama Trump, and you have all FACTS you need as to what corrupt regime we have.
Once again Fardouche, you don't understand that the President cannot and will not subvert the U.S. Constitution.
If there was some way to guarantee that no progressive, Democrat or liberal would ever have access to a firearm, the U.S. would have a murder rate closer to Liechtenstein's.
Those groups make up our criminal population, political crazies and the vast majority of dangerous psychotics.
As long as there are armed Democrats, conservatives will need the means to defend themselves.
I don't generally watch FOX OAN delivers real news. That you get your news from the Cartoon Network wouldn't surprise me. You Tru-d'oh morons should try fixing Canada before meddling here. Rebel TV is the only source of facts in Dudley Do-Right's homeland.
Fardoush, absolutely talking with these Trump Republican psychos is really total waste of Time. Real questions are:
1- how did USA get so crazy that we have average of 1 Mass shooting per Week and Republi-CONS and Demo-RATS do nothing about it!
2- why our Tax Money going to defend Japan, South Korea, Italy, Germany, Spain, etc. via US Military bases in these countries when these countries fully Defend their People as per them having ZERO Mass shootings while miserable USA has avg 1 of
So then why NOT one in US Media or no Democrat is saying if Republi-CONS real position is to defend against these Mass shootings we need more Guns and Security, then: "Lets pull all US Troops from these Countries that are Fully defending their People and bring them to USA to defend US American People from avg of 1 Mass shooting per Week...."
I mean even Trump Republi-CON lunatics cannot be so Enemy of American people to oppose this step.
Once again DumbWay, You have outlined a problem - Tax Money going to defend other countries that President Trump has been changing to benefit the U.S.
Having the military defend private citizens amounts to martial law. Move to North Korea, to see a plan like yours in action.
You know guys what is very interesting about this latest Mass shooting in Odessa Texas is that everything about the shooter named Seth Ator has been scrubbed off social media.
WHY? What are the authorities hiding about this Killer?
What the hell are Trump Republicans and Wall Street Media up to that they have purged all data about this guy?
That is not a logical supposition. What part of the social media is under Republican or government control?
It is much more likely that as many before, the shooter was incited by leftist hate mongering and did this deed to help Bernie, Beto or Pocahontas. That is more likely why it isn't on social media. Ask Mark Zuckerberg what he doesn't want you to know about Ator.
This is not a breakdown of the gun control laws currently in place. He got a gun because of a people breakdown.
Guns don't kill people any more than spoons make people fat. The problem will always be people.
It is a felony to lie on a federal application. Why are we not jailing the people who apply to purchase a gun, when they are restricted? Put them in jail before they get a gun.
It is a felony to possess a stolen firearm, but liberal judges let them off. Get rid of liberal judges and...
Another week and another Mass shooting in USA, and again in Texas. And what does Texas have? Some of the loosest Gun laws in the Nation and Republicans running the State from one End to another: from Ted (the Lucifer) Crazy, to Governor Abbot who actually wrote that
"He was Embarrassed by State Only Being No. 2 in Gun Sales":
Now in any normal developed Nations these Trump Republicans would be thrown out of office for their insanity. But NO not in the Fake Democracy that is USA 😡
So Sarah American People are so brain washed by right-wing Media which is all Wall Street based Media to "stand UP and say enough is enough" 😡
Yes, amazingly less than a Month after the ElPaso Mass shooting of People of Texas, here we have another Mass shooting of People of Texas and these Republicans who run the state of TX from Governor to Senator, have done nothing but offer Fake "Prayers" for the victims :(
These Republicans have blood on their hands, they're complicit in these murders of American People, and we as voters have a responsibility to vote them out of office. But somehow the Traitors get re-elected :(
Amazingly? Predictably would be the word I'd use. In a gun culture where reaching for your lethal killing machines is seen as a valid method of resolving disputes with colleagues, neighbours, police or anyone else what else can you expect?
Yes it seems like no matter how many people are Massacred in USA due to the insane Gun laws we have, which are backed by Trump Republicans in proving what lunatics or WORSE they are and backed by Ultra right-wing Wall Street Media of Fox, etc. in proving what True Enemy within they are, that American people would rather see the beds of slain children be empty than empty gun cases. If Sandy-hook didnt do it, nothing will as long as Wall Street Media LIES to US.
Brain_PetersOut, has received the indoctrination offered at the University of Colorado, which recently outlawed common gender-based pronouns. At actual centers of higher learning, it is known that these attacks only happen where guns are restricted. That doesn't mean a state but rather a venue like schools, churches, synagogs and concerts. The attacks are most often perpetrated by left-wing people who have issues that don't allow them to legally own guns. The correct gender neutral...
Countdown, obviously pointless talking reason with these Trump Republican Fox viewing Israel Loving lunatics. After all who but an utter lunatic or worse would look at the fact that the most Republican dominated State of Texas with the most loose Gun laws has the MOST number of Mass shootings and look at UK, Australia, etc who have almost ZERO Mass shootings in 20 years because they have strict Gun laws and not conclude from these facts how wrong or worse Trump Republicans FOX are.
Bible has quotes about protecting the children. GOP & Obama Democrats did nothing to prevent the murder of 5 year olds in Sandy Hook, or a toddler shot in the face last night in Odessa Texas or Children shot dead in ParkLand, etc. etc. And American People are so either gutless or brain washed by Big corporate Media to seat by and do nothing to put an end to these worthless parties.
Considering that Trump Republicans and the Wall Street based Media that makes these bastards possible shoot down all sensible Gun that are supported by all developed Nations and Conservative parties in UK, Australia, Japan, etc., it is safe to say that Republicans from Trump to Mitch the turtle Man McConnell, Fox etc. are also mass shooters, are just as responsible and Guilty for Massacring American People. Time to DESTROY Trump Republicans Fox 😡
Are you Republicans Fox viewing people completely brain dead or what!
After all, they have:
ZERO Mass shootings in Japan over last 20 Years
ZERO Mass shootings in SouthKorea over last 20 Years
1 Mass shootings in UK over last 20 Years
1 Mass shootings in Australia over last 20 Years
And what do these countries have? Strict Gun bans.
Now compare above numbers with USA with avg of 1 Mass shooting per Week. And Texas the most Republicans of States with most lose Gun laws with most number
Only a brain dead lunatic, or the True ENEMY of American Nation, would get from above facts that we need more Guns in US rather than same strict Gun laws they have in UK, Australia, Japan, SouthKorea etc.
Really the above facts are 100% proof that Trump Republicans and Wall Street based Media do not give a SQUAT about American People.
Fardoush, the above facts are well known to People of all developed Nations, but not to American people.
How is this possible? And WHY is this so?
The How is that Wall Street based Media of ABC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. in proving how they are part and parcel of the right-wing Cabal been hiding these facts from American People or barely covering them. Instead they spend last 2 Years covering on non-stop the Bull s***t of "Russia Trump collusion" when real collusion is between Trump & Wall Street cabal
And the ultra right-wing Media of Fox not does it of course not cover these facts which would be damning to Republicans and Obama Democrats, it actually bashes into mind of (Low IQ) Americans that watch that filth, such filth as:
"Hitler took the Guns away.."
"Stalin came for the Guns of People.."
"We know Gun controls done work just look at Chicago.."
etc. utter non-sense 😡
It seems there are a minority who hanker back to the old days when every man had a six-shooter strapped to his thigh and and could shoot his way out of trouble. Of course there was always the danger of innocents being caught in the crossfire, but that would be a small price to pay for rolling the clock back 150 years or so. That can be followed by posses and good old lynchings.
It took the Hatfields and Mccoys almost 30 years to chalk up a doxen or so kills. This is probably because they only had the sort of weapone the 2nd amanement was intended to cover, rather than high-powered assault rifles.
Fardouche, Australia has had 11 mass shootings and a higher murder rate since the confiscation.
We have a psychotic group of people who largely form our criminal class and drive all U.S. violence - we call them the Democrats. They may not have the most firearms but they most often use them in criminal pursuits. These are the people who should have no rights to firearms, but our U.S. Constitution guarantees them equal rights to those who do not commit violent crimes - the Republicans.
Mass punishment, by depriving every U.S. citizen of the right to own firearms is both unconstitutional and wrongheaded.
We need to find a way to deport or re-educate left-wingers (the most dangerous)and make them worthy citizens, even if they can't ever achieve the gold standard, of being a Republican.
Actually, you are the one with no clue.
The Democrats have been allied with Organized Crime for over a century thus controlling the labor unions.
They have been the enemies of the U.S. Constitution since losing the American Civil War, which they started over their desire to keep slaves.
They were and still are the segregationists.
They tried to stop the Republicans from winning suffrage for woman, blacks and native Americans.
They never wrote a single piece of Civil Rights legislation.
Nationalism - the love of country over the love of party Scares them.
Conservatism - the love of the U.S. Constitution and its establishment of freedom and equal justice scares them.
Having guns in private hands keeps them from establishing a tyrannous government.
Our criminal class consistently votes and/or supports Democrats, who have been inciting their followers to commit mass shootings as a tactic to push gun confiscation.
Pop Quiz: Name a single Republican ever to commit a mass shooting.
Democrats inciting their supporters to commit gun crime? Is there ANY proof of this? I already provided in a previous post, evidence to debunk the whole "shooters are all Democrats" nonsense. We are really into the realms of fantasy here and rational discussion is no longer possible.
I asked you a very simple question, that is to name a single Republican, who ever committed a mass shooting. We know that an Elizabeth Warren devotee carried out the Dayton attack. We know that James Hodgkinson, a left-wing activist and Sanders campaign worker shot U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and 3 others in an attempt to kill Republicans.
The Weather Underground, elements of the Students for a Democratic Society, the Symbionese Liberation Army, New World Liberation Front,...
... the May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO) and the smaller United Freedom Front and other murderous left-wing groups gave way to the individual left-wing shooters.
To be sure there are other culprits, but the problem is where they fall politically. We all know that the left extreme is total government control (totalitarianism). The Republicans are totally centrist.
The far-right is disorganized, small in number and against any kind of government control (Anarchists).
We can assume...
... that today's fascists, neo-Nazis, KKK, Black Panthers, etc. all came from exactly where the originals came from - the left. They all want the same things and go about getting it in the same way.
Five decades of jailhouse interviews of convicted American felons show the vast majority called themselves Democrats or liberals.
Didn't you ever wonder why the Democrats have worked so hard to have felon voting rights returned?
You just don't know what you don't know.
D.R., Did you do any real research? Name the Republican or even Republican sympathizer who committed a mass shooting, EVER.
You might read the book "Cause" written by historian Tonya Bolden. It explains the rift between Democrats and Republicans using actual historical events during the Reconstruction.
As a foreigner, you have taken it upon yourself to criticize what you don't fully understand.
Bolden is great when she sticks to the facts, her opinions are another matter. Start there.
says - after discrediting this false notion:
"Looking at the profiles of all these shooters brings up many common characteristics. Loner, mental illness, violent outbursts and general creepiness. Political ideology is generally non-existent or incoherent, particularly among the mass shooters. "
...." Regardless of one’s view on politics or gun control, associating these killers with the Democratic Party (or conversely, with Republicans or Tea Party ideology) is a low blow that’s not backed up by facts, and the argument should be removed from any rational discourse."
"A dating profile for Chris Harper Mercer, who killed nine people at a community college in Oregon in 2015, said he was a Republican, according to reporting from CBS News. There was no evidence of his political affiliation beyond the profile." from https://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2018/feb/23/claudia-tenney/do-many-mass-sho oters-end-being-democrats-rep-tenn/
You know RepubliCONs and Ultra right-wing Media of Fox, Wall Street Journal, etc. say our (insane) Gun laws are protected by 2nd Amendment, which they are not, so only way to protect against these weekly Mass shooting of American People is to have Arm guards everywhere: in every school room, on every floor of malls, etc.
So in that case, since they have ZERO Mass shooting in Japan, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Greece, etc. then Pull the US troops from all these countries and base them all over US Cities to give us protection from these Mass killings. After all, why are we American People giving protection to Japan, South Korea, Germany, etc. when they can FULLY protect their People as per having ZERO Mass shootings while we cannot protect our People as per having avg of 1 Mass shooting per Week.
Bravo Countdown. This is another way that we could call the Bull S***t attack of Trump Republican lunatics on US.
It is very telling that NO Democrat & NO one in MSM points to this FACT 😱
So indeed: why are we American People giving protection to Japan, SK, Germany, etc European Nation when they fully protect their People as per having no mass shootings in 20 Years while we cannot protect our People as per having 1 mass shooting after another!
CD, Yes very True. If Democrats or the Fake News, aka right-wing lying Media of CNN MSNBC masquerading as Liberal media, would point to this stark FACT that you have pointed to, if they would say "lets bring the US troops from Japan SK Europe etc." so they can protect us from these non-STOP mass shootings then indeed RepubliCONs in a heart beat would pass strict Gun laws since all they care about is the Military.
RT, yes very telling.
countdown, that is indeed an excellent point.
So yup, if Democrats, or the Fake News of CNN MSNBC etc., really wanted to nail Trump Republicans based on their lunatic position on Guns that "the only way to stopped Mass shootings is by having Armed guards (everywhere)..." then they would exactly suggest as you have. But of course them being the fake News, instead they are covering the new Trump Super Bull S***t of "Trump wants to buy Greenland..."
The Joke is indeed on US people 😱
Only a psycho Trump Republican lunatic Fox viewing Traitor within, would write this answer in reply to Steps we can take to SAVE the lives of countless Americans from one Mass shooting after another we are having.
So it is you Trump Republican lunatic Traitors, that should move to a Country that does nothing in face of their People being KILLED in 1 Mass shooting after another.
Sarah is absolutely right. That is there is No better proof of what psycho Trump Republican Fox viewing Traitors within are, than writing this answer to how we can SAVE lives of countless Americans from one Mass shooting after another
More to the point, why should our Taxes go to defend Japan, South Korea, Italy, etc. when they FULLY protect and defend their People as per them having ZERO mass shootings while we cannot protect our People as per USA having one Mass shooting after another???
Sarah and RealTime (0bama progressives) and their shared mental issues are exactly why the U.S. has so many problems. They get it into their little heads that they know something, can only quote each other or the most worthless resources on the planet for "facts", offer the most stupid or illegal solutions and are not smart enough to learn anything of worth.
the "only way to stop a Bad guy with Gun is a Good guy with Gun"
and then not ask for pulling US troops from all these countries that have ZERO Mass shootings in 20 Years which means they DO NOT need our protection and bringing these US troops Home so they can defend and protect US from 1 Mass shooting after another week after week?? Now think, NO Democrat or members of MSNBC CNN, are also calling for such logical actions to STOP the Mass killing of US, proving indeed what Fake News theyR 😡
Meanwhile. Time magazine reported on a study showing white supremacists have killed twice as many people as Jihadists since 9/11 - https://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/
Gun laws don't work well enough to stop someone with murderous intent. A good guy WITH A GUN is the best possible defense. The good guys are the only people stopped by gun laws, not the bad guys. More concealed carry permits to more responsible and trained people will help. Liberal-run U.S. cities with the strictest firearms laws have the highest number of gun crimes and firearm-related deaths.
Why would TIME refer to all those violent liberal criminals as "white supremacists"?
Well done to the USA for having a lower murder rate than Honduras and Venezuela etc, although The United States Virgin Islands territory comes third. Three points: there are also 100 countries with a LOWER murder rate than the USA. Also: 1. We are focussed on Mass shootings, the US speciality, not murder in general 2. ALL 117 countries have strict gun laws? Any proof of this 3.citizens of Honduras CAN own guns. I haven't got time to check the other 116 but the facts are at least contested.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Are all gun owned members of well regulated militias? That is what the 2nd amendment was created for?
"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws
“Here's my credo. There are no good guns, There are no bad guns. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a good man is no threat to anyone, except bad people.” – Charlton Heston
We prosecute gun crimes to the full extent of the law. We ensure safeguards for licensed firearm holders, who fire in self-defense. We end liberal and socialist public school indoctrination. We expel judges who are lenient on violent criminals. We demand that the NRA trainings be attended before a gun sale to a new owner. We prosecute the Fast and Furious criminals. We strictly enforce all current gun laws. We undo the gun bans nationwide and allow citizens to protect themselves.
You act AFTER the crime has been committed and you enforce current gun laws whilst at the some time doing your utmost the have them overturned. And the militias - the justification for civilian gun ownership; how are they coming along?
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson
TOS: Trump Republican Fox viewing Israel loving Psycho Traitor within:
How many more Mass shooting of American People, before WE finally stand UP and say enough is enough? And destroy the Trump Republicans for the True Enemy within that they/you are. How many more?
How many more American People have to be slaughtered due to insane Gun laws that Trump Republican nuts support and due to Hate that spews out of Fox and other organs of right-wing Media before WE the People finally say ENOUGH.
Sarah, in any (normal) Country, if there was the frequency of mass shootings that there are in USA, People of that country would have thrown out office such Government that stood by and did not do the right thing in the face of such mass killing of their People. And that is why in UK, Australia, etc. their Conservative parties passed strict Gun bans 20 Years ago and that is why they have almost no such mass shootings. But in USA not is Trump not thrown out of office, we are told Trump is running for Re-Election and he has a good chance to win! Really to say USA is a Joke of a Democracy, is to insult the word joke. Question is how is this possible?
It is appearing more likely that the leftist politicians are using their hatred of Trump to influence their followers to commit more atrocities. This is just to make all guns illegal. The Democrats are once again killing Americans for political gain and leaving the rest defenseless.
WM, you have nailed it. If USA was remotely a democracy, then of course just like Democracies of UK, Australia, etc. where they passed strict Gun bans 20 Years ago as a result of which they have had almost no mass shootings in 20 years, USA would have long ago passed same sensible strict Gun bans.
Instead we are given the fake choice of choosing between Psychopath Trump and fraud Obama/Clinton/Biden. As a result of which American People, aka Main Street going down & down, while Wall Street
Billionares behind Trump & Obama, are going Up & Up.
So you ask how is this possible? Answer US Media is a right-wing lying Machine: ranging from ABC, CNN, MSNBC that do not tell the American people the Truth or cover some Bull S***t news such as "Russia Trump collusion" for 2 Years, even though Trump been the most anti-Russian prez ever, to ultra right-wing Fox, Wall Street Journal, etc. that tell ultimate lies & non-sense and Hate-mongering on 24/7 basis.
Reporter, darn right. Answer indeed is that the Wall Street based Media
are a right-wing lying Machine, worse of which being the Fox Wall Street journal Ultra right-wing Machines. Case in point a week after these mass shootings there was an Article in WSJ stating that:
"Nothing should be done about these Mass shootings"
Reporter, once again you have everything backwards. It is exactly because the U.K., Australia and New Zealand are LESS democratic than the U.S. that they were able to override the rights of citizens and take away their firearms. Those are all semi-democratic, quasi-dictatorships.
On the freedom register: https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2018-table-country-scores
the US is slightly LESS free than the UK. You are measuring freedom on one and only one criterion: whether or not the country allows civilians to own assault rifles to blast each other with when they have a grudge. If that makes the UK less free then I am very happy to live in a "quasi dictatorship"!
Yes, delphradio. This is what Trump Republican lunatics do: that is they measure freedom based on ones ability to be able to buy Guns rather than be FREE from Terror of being KILLED in one Mass shooting after another, or be FREE from Terror of going bankrupt due to a Healthcare need since USA on top of having insane Gun laws thanks to these Trump Republican lunatics and fraud Obama/Clinton/Biden Democrats also does not have Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS) that all developed Nations have 😡
Wow, are you two way off base. A government that can take away your right to properly defend your family and yourself can as easily take away everything.
The countries you named do not offer their citizens a bill of rights, guaranteeing that they will always have freedom of religion, assembly and speech. They are not free from illegal searches, political arrest, kangaroo courts or the denial of rights given to other citizens.
U.S. Citizens are freer than any other governed people on the planet.
Magna carta 1215 AD: "In the first place we have conceded to God, and by this our present charter confirmed for us and our heirs for ever that the English church shall be free, and shall have her rights entire, and her liberties inviolate; and we wish that it be thus observed." ie freedom of religion.
Magna Carta 1215 AD And the city of London shall have all its ancient liberties and free customs, by land as well as by water. Furthermore, we decree and grant that all other cities, boroughs, towns, and ports shall have all their liberties and free customs. - liberties and customs ancient in 1215!
The first serious control on firearms was established with the passing of the Firearms Act 1920. Since the passing of gun control laws, the UK has one of the lowest firearm death rates among developed nations, with 0.2 deaths per 100,000, compared to 10.2 in the U.S. (wikipedia)
Guys, you are talking with a Trump Republican lunatics. So no matter what amount of facts and data you provide them they will through one non-sense and rubbish after another.
I mean think that in proving what a brain dead lunatic he is, he writes:
"A government that can take away your right to properly defend your family"
when in USA where we are having insane Gun laws we are having average of 1 Mass shooting of "ourselves and our family" whereas in UK, Australia, etc. countries with strict
The Swiss can have guns, as can the Czechs, but they don't seem to have this desire to blow each others brains out on a regular basis.
Perhaps the Yanks should have gun ownership suspended until they can learn to sort out their differences in a peaceful, civilized manner. 😂
Gun bans they have 1 Mass shooting per 20 Years, which OF COURSE means that they and their "family" are far more defended and protected due to their sensible strict Gun laws compared to USA with our insane Gun laws.
Now every (normal) developed Nation knows these facts and has acted on them. But not USA because Wall Street based Media being a True Enemy within on 24/7 basis pours out the non-sense and lies that these Republican lunatics then repeat. A good example being article from WSJ above.
delphradio, reason Swiss can have guns, as can the Czechs, etc. and they do not suffer from non-STOP Mass shootings and other shootings as in USA, is that beside having insane Gun Laws USA is also suffering from:
1- lacking Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS), so 10s of Millions cannot get the Mental care they need, which BTW Psycho Trump refers to as key reason behind Mass shootings which is not true but is a factor
2- We have Psycho Trump & Fox which spew Hate on 24/7 basis upon USA 😡
That's a good point, Reporter. Exactly who do we need to protect our family from? I've had a family for over 30 years, during which time, in God's mercy, there has never been a single occasion when I have needed a gun! If I lived in the US where malls etc are being shot up on a weekly basis, how would me having a gun prevent that?
1) The Magna Carta gave nothing to the common man. It was a document settling long-standing problems only between the High King and the barons.
2) gun problems will end when the Democrat Party of crime, corruption and racism is no more.
3) Deeply flawed and confused Reporter starts off his fatuous post with: "Guys, you are talking with a Trump Republican lunatics." aside from the poor English, his words show his inability to learn the truth. He must still love Hillary...a lot.
delphradio, Exactly. This is just one example of the War that Trump Republican lunatics aided by Wall Street Media are playing on American People :(
So they cannot defend their positions about insane state of Gun laws in USA that is resulting in one Massacre of American People after another. So they come up with one bull s***t SCAM after another such as "Thanks for Gun laws that lets me defend my family" when in fact families in countries with strict Gun laws are FAR SAFER than in USA as per
1 Mass shooting in UK in 20 Years vs average of 1 Mass shooting per Week in USA!
Really how utterly insane, what True Enemy of a Nation, do you have to be to call Gun laws that are resulting in 1 Mass shooting of American People to be "I love these Gun laws that lets me defend my family..."?
Very seldom has a conservative or Republican ever engaged in gun violence. Their use of guns is for recreation and protection.
Democrats, liberals, leftists and progressives tend to use guns criminally (armed robbery, settling arguments etc.) or to create atrocities (mass murders and wanton bloodshed) in order to speed the disarmament of the conservatives , who would resist a left-wing political revolt.
Reporter and his kind should never be allowed to own guns.
I find it amazing that American People are not in the street by the Millions demanding real "Change". Demanding Trump to step dow or even more so demanding he be prosecuted and put in jail for failing to put in place sane Gun laws that would stop these weekly mass shooting of American People. Just like they did in UK, Australia, etc. after a horrific mass shooting there 20 years ago. Really what is wrong with people in USA that they can seat by and watch one Mass shooting after another, average of 1 per week, and not pour into streets and demand and get real change 😱
Soggy, it is not the President's duty to, or in his ability to make these changes, even if they were a good idea.
His job is to honor, protect and obey the WHOLE U.S. Constitution.
I has long been obvious that you don't understand the situation or the political players here. You might start by asking for knowledge instead of falsely believing that you have some to offer. Learn first.
Zog, American People are not pouring into street and brining about real change because they are not being told the truth. Since Wall Street based Media is a right-wing lying Machine: ranging from right-wing lying Media of ABC CNN MSNBC to ultra right-wing lying Machine of Fox, with Fox then calling ABC CNN MSNBC to be "Liberal media". Completing the ultimate Mind F***K known to man. To be exact NO one in USA Media is telling American People that Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc.
passed strict Gun bans 20 years ago, as result of which they have had Zero to 1 Mass shooting in 20 Years. Which facts would show what lunatics Trump Republicans are for calling strict Gun bans to be:
1- Socialism Communism
2- They do not work, since again they have had Zero to 1 Mass shootings in 20 years vs avg of 1 Mass shooting per Week in USA :(
And what fraud Obama/Biden are for doing nothing either but just talking the good talk when running for office.
TOS, Trump Republican psycho: number 1 job of the President is to protect the Life of American People. The U.S. Constitution is there for that purpose.
Moreover Trump Republican psycho: where in the Constitution says people can buy Assault weapons like AR15? Where does it say you can buy hand held Guns? It says "Arms", which for when Constitution was written means Muskets. Or are you saying Arms means any Arms, which should then mean we can buy Machine guns, Bazookas, Grenades, etc..
Soggy, listen to RT. I mean really listen. He has no clue and yet has to throw in his lamebrained ideas.
The word "musket" was in use when the U.S. Constitution was written, but not used for a simple reason. You will notice that the word "Arms" is used and purposely capitalized. The form of these arms was not being dictated, because the document was the basis of a county designed to last for centuries when someday even ray guns might exist. This was purposely left open. The people were to...
... retain whatever weapons would ensure their freedom from tyranny.
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
-- Thomas Jefferson
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”
― James Madison
TOS the Trump Republican lunatic: so based on your lunatic logic, are you saying that we should be able to buy Machine guns? Grenade launchers? Bazookas? Helicopter Gun Ships? Cannons? etc. etc.
Since these are also Arms. Of course we cannot.
Moreover, “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed" is resulting in Mass slaughter, as in KILLING of American People by 10s of 1000s per year. So your right to bear Arms should not take precedence over right of Americans to LIVE.
RT, thanks for showing what these solid facts what a total Bull S***t SCAM this 2nd Amendment argument is for having the insane state of Guns we have in USA that are leading to 1 mass shooting slaughter of American people after another.
So exactly, if 2nd Amendment does not give us the right to have machine guns, Grenade launchers, etc. then it does not give us the right to have Assault Weapons, Hand guns, etc. And more importantly: someones 2nd Amendment right is not more important than
someones LIFE. Now every developed nation, from UK to Australia to Japan, etc. know and appreciate these facts. except USA thanks to Republican lunatics and Obama/Biden frauds, and above all thanks to Wall Street media that does not states these FACTS or out right spews out the total LIES and exact opposite of facts such as fox. really sick 🤑
President Trump shows no inclination towards tyranny. He is trying to insure that every qualified citizen has the right to their own self-defense.
It is actually his left-wing Democrat anti-self-defense opposition that displays the tendency towards tyranny. The Democrats control education and the media. This attempt at tyranny mirrors the words of leftist tyrant Josef Stalin -
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?"
1st, Sensible strict Gun bans have been passed by the Uber Democracies of UK, Australia, etc. which Uber Democracies Trump Regan, etc. Republican psychos lavish praise at such as the recent visit of Psycho Trump to UK.
2nd, Obviously our "right to self-defense" based on our insane Gun laws are a total disaster as per average of 1 Mass shooting SLAUGHTER of American People per week vs 1 or ZERO Mass shootings in 20 Years in UK, Australia, etc.
If you can overcome your racist tendencies for just a few minutes this video, by a black man, will explain the centrist view of the problem and suggest a simple and proven fix.
WTF are you talking about!
What does having sensible Gun policies as other developed Nations has anything to do with racist!
So as others have noted, as the entire developed World agrees with, and ONLY Trump Republican lunatic Fox viewing traitors within do not agree with, having sensible strict Gun laws are necessary for well being of a Nation or you will end up with the Daily & Weekly slaughter of your People in one Mass shooting after another, as we are having here in USA :(
Delph, you are not going to get a coherent answer from these Trump Republican lunatics. Just look at their comments already to this issue that ALL developed Nations agree about. That is a Nation needs strict Gun laws as you have in UK etc., or you will end up with 1 Mass shooting after another as is the case with USA. But Trump Republicans in proving what lunatics they are, they oppose such sensible Gun laws, calling them "Communism", "Hitler took the Guns away.." etc. non-sense.
Sarah, you folks are haters, you hate the President, you hate Republicans, you hate Jews, you hate gun owners and it follows that you would hate black people too. Since this video is by a black man, I simply asked you to put your hate aside and watch it.
Delph, on June 14, 2017, James Hodgkinson, a Sanders supporter and campaign worker shot U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, U.S. Capitol Police officer Crystal Griner, congressional aide Zack Barth, and lobbyist Matt Mika.
In the United States and the rest of the developed world, total murder and suicide rates, from all causes, do not increase with rates of gun ownership -- or drop under tougher gun laws [sources: Killias, van Kesteren and Rindlisbacher; Liptak].
look at the relationship between gun laws and violence in general. It is possible to have a violent society without guns. Prime evidence of that is the former Soviet Union and its successor states such as Russia, which despite stringent gun control...
... laws, posted murder rates from 1965-1999 that far outstripped the rest of the developed world [sources: Kates and Mauser; Kessler; Pridemore]. The killers in question did not obtain illegal firearms -- they simply employed other weapons [source: Kleck].
On the other hand, Norway, Finland, Germany, France and Denmark, all countries with heavy gun ownership, have a history of low murder rates.
TOS, the Trump Republican Fox Wall Street Journal brain washed Psycho. NO. It is you Trump Republican Fox and rest of right-wing Media that HATE the American People. As per you opposing the sensible Gun laws that other developed Nations have passed such as UK, as a result of which they have 1 Mass shooting per 20 years vs 1 per Week in USA 😡
You American People HATING Traitors will be brought to justice by the American People soon.
We have many sensible gun laws, but in the cities under Democrat control they are never enforced. Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore all have pretty aggressive gun laws, but they are run by (D)espicable and corrupt politicians, who really don't care.
Thank you, Thomat OurStore. I now know a bit about James Hodgkinson, who didn't actually manage to kill anyone. Despite being a violent man with a criminal record, he legally owned a hunting rifle. For the shooting, he had acquired a pistol and an assault rifle, presumably not legally, but not hard to do either, it would seem.
Only a Trump Republican lunatic would actually say:
"We have many sensible gun law"
When we are having average of 1 Mass shooting per Week, and 10s of 1000s of Americans KILLED per Year by Guns, while in UK, Australia, etc, were they have ACTUAL sensible gun law, they have 1 Mass shooting per 20 Years and 1% of Gun related deaths of USA.
So sensible gun laws would be banning Assault Weapons such as AR15, large calibers, etc.
But of course American People HATING Traitors do none of these 🤷🏻
Interesting about George Orwell. Of course, he was a Brit, and we have not had guns on the wall for many generations. This article suggests that actually, Nazis were keen on putting guns into the hands of th4e populace, despite suggestions to the contrary - https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Orwell-dislike-gun-control
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjugated races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjugated races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.” - Adolf Hitler
“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” -- Adolf Hitler
You know what is amazing is that after these YET again horrific mass shootings in Elpaso and Dayton Trump goes to these cities to supposedly offer help to victims and instead in proving what a sociopath he is he talks about "Size of his Crowd" etc. rubbish that have NOTHING to do with the Horror of these mass shootings and NO Mention of the 30+ Americans who were KILLED, repeat KILLED as in DEAD, due to these mass shootings, due to Trump Republicans and Obama/Biden not having put into place sensible Gun laws that other developed Nations have put in place Decades ago.
Yes really amazing indication of what a Sociopath Trump is: this is a photo of Trump grinning while Melania holds a baby orphaned by the shooting. And it get worse :(
A baby who was taken from home and forced to serve as a prop at a photo-op for the very monster whose hate killed her/his parents.
Exactly. A real horror show this Trump is. That is as bad as Obama/Biden were in not passing sensible Gun reforms after SandyHook, that other developed Nations passed Decades ago, Trump Republicans are somehow even worse! And this Photo up at the Hospital Bed of the victims of these Mass shootings and NO Mention, repeat NO Mention, of the 30+ Americans KILLED, repeat KILLED as in DEAD, due to these mass shootings by Trump during this visit is really breath taking :(
RReally, who but a True Sociopath goes to the Cities were American People have been massacred, goto the Hospital of the survivors, and NEVER, repeat NEVER, mentions the name of those Americans who were Killed in these Mass shootings in Elpaso and Dayton and instead talk about "How big the Crowd size wise" and give a Thumbs Up with a Big smile. Really SICK 👎
WOW Doctors and Nurses are giving Thumbs up with Big smiles next to the Trump doing the same, over the horrific horrific mass shooting that left 30+ American KILLED! What are they going to do if 300 Americans are shot dead? break out the Champagne bottles and bring Beyonce 😱
And yet the majority of all shooters are politically opposed to President Trump. They range from from anarchists, to liberal Democrats, Sanders supporters, Warren supporters, Neo-Nazis, both White and Black Supremacists and "Klan" members.
We first must eliminate liberal judges, enforce immediate death sentences for capital cases with corroborating DNA evidence, bring back hanging. Institute caning for serious and flogging sexual battery or rape (televise the perp's face during the punishment.
Leniency has grown the number of serious crimes and Democrats cover for the criminals. Democrats won't execute an adult but kill millions of babies. Vote out every single treasonous, criminal, corrupt and immoral Democrat, liberal, pro-regressive and socialist.
Goody, goody. Yet another upstanding US citizen exercising his right to bear arms - https://sputniknews.com/us/201908151076553128-at-least-3-cops-shot-as-active-shooter-situa tion-unfolds-in-philadelphia/
The shooters are too often from the left. Are the Democrats promoting such violent incidents to grab the guns, as other dictatorial groups have done around the world? Could all these murders be planned by the left? They have a violent history.
Pissed off at work? Get your gun. Pissed off at school. Get your gun. Family tick you off? Get a gun. Authority problem? Get a gun and start spraying. If I ever find myself in that situation, I won't be asking what their political persuasion is.
That is why you investigate BEFORE you find yourself in that situation. Those of us, who live here, know the Democrats to be a party that PROMOTES violence, cheats on elections and lives by corruption. They lynched over 4,000 people they believed to be Republicans. killed 16,000,000 black babies with their eugenics program and on, and on...
The President can't change what is going on. He is honor-bound to defend, not destroy the U.S. Constitution.
The Democrat candidates know that their constituents will continue these attacks if they can keep them in a frenzied state.
Hatred of an American President for doing his job is insane, especially after giving 0bama a pass for doing so much less good.
That some people think President Trump is deserving of hate, insults and impeachment only shows how gullible and/or stupid some of us really are.
President "is honor-bound to defend, not destroy the U.S. Constitution". You are referring to 2nd Amendment. In your insane psycho mind, passing strict Gun bans that would SAVE, repeat Psycho SAVE, life of 10s of 1000s of Americans per Year is "destroying the U.S. Constitution". So how about the life of Jordan Anchondo and her Husband that destroyed in Elpaso Mass shooting like 10s of 1000s like her whose lives are "destroyed" every year due to insane Gun laws we have? Isnt their lives more
important than the right buying Guns? Is the president not obligated to SAVE the lives of these Americans whose LIVES are being destroyed by 10s of 1000s per year due to insane Gun laws we have? A***e 😡
Yes, how is SAVING the lives of 10s of 1000s of Americans per Year due to insane Gun laws we have is "destroying the U.S. Constitution"?
After all, the ultimate purpose of the Constitution is to protect the Life and Liberty of American People and not result in Massacre of American People by 10s of 1000s per Year from Sandy Hook to Vegas to Elpaso, etc. etc.
To be exact when the 2nd Amendment was written Arms was having a Musket, not AR15, etc. weapons of Mass slaughter.
There was a law in the UK that every automobile carriage on the road had to be preceded by a person carrying a red flag as a safety feature. When that became a nonsense, the law was repealed. Facilitating mass murder on a weekly basis because every nut job has the right a bear an assault rifle seems like a law from wild west times that should have been repealed 100 years ago.
delph, yes. Every rational normal People and Nation living in a Real Democracy would exactly think:
"Facilitating mass murder on a weekly basis because every nut job has the right a bear an assault rifle seems like a law from wild west times that should have been repealed 100 years ago"
But you see USA is not normal at all and certainly not a Democracy. We are a Nation under attack by a bunch of ultra-right-wing Wall Street Billionaires, resulting in fraud Obama and Psycho Trump/Fox 😡
As a result of which it is 2019 and we are having average of 1 Mass shooting per Week and Republicans and Democrats doing NOTHING about it. And on Fox news they redicule, demonize and savage anyone who speaks about the insane Gun laws we have. And no Big corporate Media outlet in USA tells the American People that Conservative party in UK passed strict Gun bans, as result of which they/you have has 1 Mass shooting in 20 Years. So that is what Sane/Good people, real Patriots, should be doing.
delphradio, reporter: exactly. If US was a Democracy where Republicans and Democrats were worried that if they do American People wrong they would be destroyed at the Voting booth, then of course they would pass sensible Gun bans as they passed in UK, Australia, etc.. But because USA is not a Democracy, so they are not afraid of our Votes. And in fact not has Trump done nothing about these non-STOP Mass shootings of our People, he has gone to NRA and promised NOTHING real will be done. Sick 🤮
If the liberal mindset didn't exist, neither would these atrocities. The Second Amendment isn't there for offensive use, it exists to allow citizens the defend themselves. A normal centrist (like any conservative or Republican) follows and respects the law. Liberalism is the tendency to disregard a law that they think doesn't apply to them. This is why a conservative, who doesn't like guns, doesn't buy or use guns. People, like you who don't like guns try to make them illegal. The 2nd Amendment.
.. exists to keep Americans a free people. The counties with the strictest gun laws are those where citizens have the most to fear.
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
-- Thomas Jefferson (a framer of the U.S. Constitution)
Having sensible Gun laws is a common sense GOOD thing. Not a Liberal thing.
After all, it is the Conservative parties, repeat for you Trump Republican Fox viewing psychos, it is the Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc. whom passed strict Gun bans as result of which they have had ZERO to 1 Mass shootings in 20 years:
Really who but the True Enemy of American People would be for the current Gun laws that are resulting in 1 Slaughter Mass shooting of American People after another?
Keep in mind that Obama/Biden Democrats did really NO different than Trump Republican lunatics, when it comes to passing sensible Gun laws. From SandyHook were 20 Children were massacred to etc.. Obama/Biden Democrats did nothing really either about this True TERROR that is facing American people every DAY!
Really, who but the True Enemy of a Nation would not pass sensible Gun laws as the Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc. passed decades ago as result of which they have had ZERO to 1 Mass shootings in 20 years???
That FACT really nails it as to how Trump Republican psychos and Obama/Biden frauds, do not give a SQUAT about American people or worse.
After SandyHook of Obama era, any Democracy where the Vote of the People actually matters, would have passed sensible Gun laws. But not US :(
What on earth would three idiots, like you, know about any "common sense GOOD thing"? You are the kind of people that exist as opinionated, non-productive leeches on our society. Move to a country where the gun laws bar ownership; you would fit right in.
So now the name calling starts.Anyone who questions the sanity of letting anyone own an assault rifle is an idiot. Oh and we are "non-productive leeches". On what possible basis can you make that statement? Do enlighten me, as you seem to know me so well.
Delph, apparently you follow the Democrat line. All three took their shots at me first, but you ignored that.
From Sarah -"you Trump Republican Fox viewing psychos"
From Faxonly - "Trump Republican lunatic"
From Goldcoast - " Trump Republican psychos"
Please quote anything that I said to start this confrontation. I just give the facts, not opinions (except the idiot part, which was justified). I find that you have to to that just to get their attention first, before you try to teach them.
In answer to your comment. Assault rifles are not available for sale to the general public. Owning one is costly. An M-16, my favorite, can cost over $30,000, the transfer can take several months and owners are seriously vetted.
I did refer to the three who verbally attacked me as idiots and "non-productive leeches", but I fail to understand why you are trying to include yourself in that trio. Please clarify yourself.
Again, who but the True Enemy of a Nation would not pass sensible Gun laws as the Conservative parties in UK, Australia, etc. passed decades ago as result of which they have had ZERO to 1 Mass shootings in 20 years???
Contrast this with USA where we have an Insane truly horrific average of 1 Mass shooting per Week!!!
These FACTs really nails it as to how Trump Republican and Obama/Biden Democrats, do not give a SQUAT about American people or worse 😡
Yes, we need sensible gun laws. Since almost all of the mass shooters grew up in BROKEN homes with NO FATHER present, all we need to do to stop the mass shootings is to pass ONE SENSIBLE GUN LAW that BARS ANYONE that grew up on a FATHERLESS home from having access to guns. That would stop ALMOST ALL mass shootings.
I think NOT. Sadly 😡
Not as long as Wall Street is pumping 10s of Billions of Dollars into such Hate spewing right-wing brain washing lying Machine as Fox, Rush, CNBC, etc. etc.
OTOH, what do American People have to get the Truth out 😰
To see how Prayers are used by Trump Republican Fox and right-wing Media to be the WHORE of NRA and other Evil, consider the fact that in response to Sutherland Springs First Baptist Church in 2017 — where 25 churchgoers, including a pregnant woman were massacred, Texas rather than passing strict Gun bans, is About To Get Even Looser Gun laws:
FX, really amazing! Just amazing what utter lunatics or WORSE these Trump Republicans have become. That in face of 1 Mass shooting of American people after another, rather passing strict Gun bans as other developed Nations have, such as UK, Australia, etc. as result of which they have almost ZERO mass shootings, these bastards, these True Enemy withing, pass even more Looser Gun laws 😡 🤮 💩
Sarah & Reporter, I wonder what a Circus show is going to be in Texas today with Trump the tool of NRA and the one who has been spewing the ultimate HATE showing up in ElPaso today to give his respect to the victims of ElPaso Mass shooting, caused by his/Republicans support of our insane Gun laws and Trump/Fox HATE speeches! Going to be a dooooozy 👎
Yes, question is why American People are not fighting back and make there voices heard?
Because USA is under attack by the Ultra right-wing (Lying) Media of Fox and 1000s others like it, whom have created this Upside Down World where they attack someone calling for same sensible Gun laws and Universal socialized healthcare that they have in UK, Australia, etc. to be: "Socialist", "Communist", "Godless", etc. psycho non-sense leading to psycho Trump Republicans.
Yes, Sarah, You are absolutely right. As long as the psycho right-wing Lying Machine of Fox etc Wall Street based Media are on the Air, funded by 10s of Billions of Dollars of Wall Street money to be there, spewing their LIES and Hates on USA, where they even attack the only right direction for a Country to go which is to be "Progressive" by equating "Progressive" with "Communism", "Socialism", etc. psycho non-sense, there is little hope for real CHANGE we need 😱
JJ, I am afraid you are right. As long as Fox and like Ultra right-wing Media, aka Ultra FAKE News, are on the Air, enabled to be there by 10s of Billions of Dollars from Wall Street, resulting in Ultra Fake President Trump, we are going to have a real HELL of a time to bring about the real change that we the American people need in this Country.
Guys do not give UP. Sure Wall Street is throwing 10s of Billions of Dollars behind the Ultra right-wing Hate_mongering & Fear_mongering Fox, but once American People see the Truth, which they will thanks to the Internet ans sites such as this, then we will come together and put an End to Fox and their lies and bring about real Gun reform and changes we need. Just have HOPE and do not give up 🙏
I am interested that rather than face gun control, Mr Trump blames mental illness. So the questions are: 1. why can mentally ill people get hold of assault rifles so easily and 2. Will the mentally ill shooters be put in a secure hospital for treatment? Something doesn't stack up.
Delph, that is very true what you have written. But actually it gets WORSE. That is they (Repugs or Dems) use this "we need better Mental health care to stop these mass shootings" as a diversion, since these same Trump Republicans oppose Universal Socialized Healthcare (NHS as you call it in UK) that would give these shooters the treatment they need. Because since we have for-profit Wall Street based healthcare in USA, then someone without a good Job cannot get healthcare they can afford.
And obviously someone who is Mentally ill so much so they are going to massacre people in a Mass shooting is 1st not going to have a good paying Job that comes with good health insurance and 2nd not going to pay $10,000 per Year deductibles before they can get care, etc. super expenses that is the sorry state for-profit healthcare in USA. What is amazing is not one Media points out to these facts when Trump or Obama uses "Shooters need Mental health care" as a response to these shootings 😱
So sad to see about these non-Stop mass shooting of American People that Trump Republican bastard do NOTHING about but laugh at us by "Praying" for the victims and their families and "Our Prayers" are with the victims. Bastards, we do not need your cheap prayers, we need real Gun reforms. We the People of USA really need to put an END to these Trump Republican lunatics or worse the True Enemy within.
Jessica, yes this "we will go to our Christian Church's and Pray for the victims" and hold candle light vigils have become the most insidious form of insult by Trump Republican lunatics against American People. I mean Christian Church's and Praying are great, but that is obviously not the only thing we can and should be doing against these Mass shooting of American People. We need to pass strict Gun bans and have Universal socialized healthcare so these people can get the mental care they need.
Sarah, yes. going to Christian Church's and Pray for the victims, is fine and for sure do that. But of course we need to do much more, and Republicans and slime bags on Fox etc. use this as a SCAM on US to do nothing else. I mean did we just Pray for the victims of Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or did we take real action by spending to 100s of Billions do destroy the Evil behind these deeds? Same way we need to take action and destroy NRA, Fox news, etc. who are behind these Mass shooting (attacks) in US
What is totally breath taking was that Trump today gave a Speech where he said Hate and Lack of Mental health is driving these Mass shootings in USA, when he has been the Psychopath in Chief who has spewed more Hate message than anyone but the slime bags on Fox news. And then him and Fox oppose Universal Socialized Healthcare so these Mass shooters with supported Mental health issues cannot POSSIBLY get such needed Mental health care since obviously they are not going to have good paying Jobs that gives them Health insurance and certainly they are not going to have $10,000 Deductibles and 20% co-pays etc Wall Street rip-offs to get healthcare in USA, because again Trump Republican Fox bastards oppose Universal Socialized Healthcare.
Ya man, Trump & Fox utter the most Hate filled messages you can, such as even calling Baltimore, a whole US city only 40 Miles from DC, to be "rat infested hell hole..", which means everyone in Baltimore can be exterminated, since extermination is of course how you deal with rats. And then Trump having NO shame what so ever, after each Mass shooting in US, well major Mass shooting, he comes out and utters such non-sense as we need to stop the Hate. What!
And to add insult to injury this psycho Trump in his speech today he blamed Video games violence for these mass shootings, when they have these same Video games in South Korea, Japan, etc and they have NO Mass shootings in these countries and 0.001% of Gun Murders as in USA. why? because they have strict Gu bans. Doh.
When Trump is the Megaphone of Hate, from Calling Baltimore being "rat infested" which presumably means everyone in Baltimore can be Killed since that is how we deal with rats, to calling the dark skin Congress Woman to "Go back where you come from" to calling Mexicans to be "Rapist and Invasion" etc. Mega Hate messages and all of which is amplified by Fox and rest of right-wing Media. Have they NO Shame
Here we go. Another mass shooting in USA, well this time 3 in mere 1 Week. And all Trump Republicans want to do is to Pray, which means "Fuvk you American People". And MSNBC CNN are interviewing the friend and neighbors of the shooters, as if that means squat. And Fox is attacking anyone proposing the sane Gun bans UK, Australia, etc. (Conservative parties) passed 20 years as result of which they have had 1 Mass shootings in 20 years, to be "Socialist" or "Communism" and "How Hitler and Stalin took Peoples Guns away too.." etc. psycho non-sense.
Sarah, sadly I am afraid nothing will be done for or by American People after this tragedy too, just as nothing came after Sandy Hook massacre, Vegas massacres, etc. or it is 2019 and US does not have something as basic as Universal socialized healthcare. WHY? Because Ultra right-wing Hate Spewing lying Wall Street based Fox backed by 10s of Billions of Wall Street funding will spin all related data to attack and demonize anyone and everyone calling for action. As they did with people calling for strict Gun bans after Sandy Hook mass shooting, Vegas mass shooting, Parkland mass shooting etc. or attacking People calling for Universal socialized healthcare to ne "Socialist" "Communist" or "wanting to give healthcare to illegal Aliens" etc. Hate based non-sense and lies.
Fard, it is astonishing that 48 Hours after these mass shootings they have shut down 8Chan for being a source of right-wing Hate, while the Ultra right-wing Hate Spewing lying Wall Street based Fox continues to be on the Air! When the Ultra right-wing Hate Spewing Fox can reach 10 Millions more innocent People compared to 8Chan. It really tells you how we have one World for lil People such as 8Chan and another for Wall Street based such as the Mother of all Hate-mongers: Fox news.
Yes, really. Why is the lil 8Chan shut down, which btw they should be given that they have been a source of right-wing hate and lunatics, but then why is Fox still on the Air when Fox is 100 times more so source of right-wing hate and lunatics? Or Rush, Beck, etc. right-wing Nut Jobs still on the Air? Because Fox, Rush, etc. are Wall Street based.
Exactly. If you really want to end Hate speech and right-wing Nut Jobs it is Fox we want to End and not the lil nothing 8Chan. More importantly how did such a right-wing Hate-Spewing Fear-Mongering machine as Fox got 10s of Billions from Wall Street? In that answer, you have all you need to know as to what is so WRONG with USA where we have avg of 200 Mass shootings per Year and nothing done to End them, lack Universal Socialized Health, etc. etc. that other developed Nations have.
Sarah, what is really telling as to what is going in USA, consider the FACT that for 2 Years CNN, MSNBC, etc. been running this Wall to Wall Bull S***t of "Russia Trump" collusion based on flimsiest of facts, when they could have destroyed Trump Republicans based on 100% FACT of them supporting the insane state of Guns laws in USA and adding to this fire with non-STOP Hate spewing out of Trump/Fox, while as you noted in UK, Australia, etc. after just 1 Mass shooting 20 years ago, their Conservative parties passed strict Gun bans, as result of which they have had 1 Mass shootings in 20 years!
Reporter, really. If CNN, MSNBC, etc. would just spend half the time covering the "Russia Trump" collusion BS to covering that in UK, Australia, etc. after just 1 Mass shooting 20 years ago, their Conservative parties passed strict Gun bans, as result of which they have had 1 Mass shootings in 20 years, that would:
1- Tell American People strict Gun bans work and are only way to stop mass shootings
2- Destroy the Trump/Republican/Fox for calling strict Gun bans to be "Socialism" "Communism"
Yup, if CNN, MSNBC, and ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. would just tell the American People that UK, Australia, etc. after just 1 Mass shooting 20 years ago, via their Conservative parties and not their Socialist parties, passed strict Gun bans, as result of which they have had 1 Mass shootings in 20 years, that would alone destroy the Trump Republican Fox psychos.